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I fallow a lot of this , most of it you need to build yourself , but finding enough info to make some of the products is hard to come by .

One of the problems is the same as what we are having now with other alt fuels , as in ethanol , bio diesel , is the corrupt manor in which it is applied , that being those that steer it towards there already fested interests , instead of what is most efficient [ best for all ] as an example , using corn & soybeans to make either of those fuels , they are crops that are very hard on the land [ as our farming does at this time ] , then the amount of fuel produced per acer , then the last is related to water , the world is full of issues with water now , when we start using it as a fuel on a wholesale level , only the rich will be able to drink water or bathe .

I used to like the idea of Hydrogen fuels [ the most predomanant element in the universe ] but as stated above I worry about the issues the may be created .

I think that like almost any thing in our lives is have many variates of anything [ diversity ] is the best , no evolution without diversity , any with many energy sources , that are made / consumed locally , the is a better chance to keep corruption / control at a min.

If some one is trying to tell us there is only one answer , it makes me think they are just trying to get control of our life's , weather it be energy / products and especially religion .

I don't understand much engineering, so I feel pretty ignorant in most of these discussions. Plus, I'm reluctant to accept things I read and see at face value - sometimes downright cynical, I am. But I've given a bunch of thought to the matter of free or almost-free energy. It stands to reason that the best way to provide power is on a small scale, multiplied many times, with as little impact on the environment as possible. I've always been fascinated with the simple idea of heat differential. This is what makes a solar oven and a Minto wheel work. The solar oven is free, the Minto wheel is nearly so. And remember those little glass globes with the black and white vanes inside that would spin as long as it received light? Heat differential.

With free heat you can make something move. That's free energy. If you have to add a heat source, say at night or in the winter, it's still almost-free energy. And, it seems to me, it ought to be simple enough to do with the kind of 19th-century engineering combined with 21st-century materials that has given us racing bicycles and handguns.

Another idea that has tickled my brain repeatedly, even though it's way beyond my own mechanical skills, is to come up with a gearbox and hand crank that would replace the electric motors in appliances like blenders and mixers.

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Checked out some of the websites indexed above...haven't watched the videos yet. That one site makes me want to sit down and write a check. I remembered my boss talking about something similar, so I asked him about it this afternoon. Apparently a few years ago he drove over to Arizona to check out something similar, because he wasn't willing to buy it until he actually saw it working in a car that he could drive (Dan and I think alike on some things). I don't know who the company was or even how much like this device the thing was, only that it was something that involved a similar process, and Dan came away believing the whole thing was a scam.

Which leaves me back where I started.

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Hey John,

What you have just said makes so much sense.....if we are to follow natures example diversity is always the rule.....and as the saying goes, there are many ways to skin a cat.....sorry Nada!...lol

Jez