Is there Light in space?

Hi all,

Years ago I heard that there was no light in space.....I think I first came across it with Nasa's moon landing photo's.....which have no stars.....if thats wrong I hope someone has the facts and will share them...

When I researched Tesla I realized he saw energy different to the rest of us.....When he first built power poles to carry his AC current he hit a snag....at the moment they hit the switch and let power run through the transformers and lines for the first time, it would arc out in a large blue bolt of electricity and it killed quite a few people.

Everyone set out to eliminate the blue spark except Tesla...it inspired him very profoundly......he believed that the blue spark did not come from the power supply...just like lightning is the result of a set of conditions that result in a bolt of energy from the atmosphere, he believed that this was the same and that it also came out of the atmosphere ......and he saw light as another form of this same reaction...

Tesla understood that something in what they were doing with the powerpoles was setting up the right conditions for this "cosmic" energy to manifest as a bolt of lightning....we still have the blue spark occassionally when we turn our light switches on...they "fixed" it so it wasn't dangerous but from that moment on Tesla never looked back, he set out to understand and create more of the effect.....and we got to see only crumbs of what he came up with from that point on....

You see I do believe that there is no light in space...it makes sense and I have been playing with it for well over a year now.....light is a manifestation just like lightning...I believe that light as we know it is something that is produced as a result of a reaction between the suns energy and our atmosphere...what does this mean?...I'm not sure but it feels significant to me......

We talk here about the change that is happening....it is expressed many ways....ie we are going from male energy to female....I think we are also going from being re-active to pro-active....

An example Tesla gave of how we could collect energy was to imagine a boat with a hole in it.....all you have to do is drop the boat into water, once, and then the difference in pressure will mean that water will flow into the boat, where all you have to do is collect it...........

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Jez

 

ChrisBowers's picture

"It is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature".

That's how Tesla put it to the American Institute of Electrical Engineers in 1891, and they looked at him like he was nuts.  Today they call yesterday's "Aether" Zero Point Energy, or the extremely energetic random "jitter" that is there at zero degrees Kelvin in the so called dark vacuum of "empty" space.

When I was first learning about ZPE I had this distinct image of deep dark space where there is apparently no light, but as you get smaller and smaller in that very energetic subatomic realm, the very energetic light begins to appear, and the smaller you go the more intense the energy and brighter the light.  I am convinced that "frame of reference" is everything, and ours is somewhat limited when it comes to the limited data of our 5 senses.

Physicists now know that there is enough energy in one cubic centimeter of dark empty vacuum space to create all the mass of all the galaxies and star systems as far as the Hubble telescope can see in all directions, and still have some of that cubic centimeter left over when done, and we are enveloped in an infinite sea of that so called dark emptiness, which is anything but.

Talk about less is more!  Anyway, when I saw your post it reminded me of that phenomenal image of apparent dark turning to very bright light when and if your sensory perception could go deep into that very very sub subatomic realm of which all mass is built upon and made out of.

How did Tom Valone put it, it's hard to access this energy because it is like trying to weigh a glass of water that is in the ocean.  I now see all the physical dense matter mass our eyes can see as somewhat less energetic displacements of a very accommodating and vastly more energetic all permeating womb of this ZPE or Aether that Tesla was so excited about.  I wish he were here today.

http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/Tesla/Harnessing-IntroChapter.pdf

Hey Chris,

How ya doin dude?

Einstein got right into the aether as well.....I love the tesla quote.....I think that was from his early days, what a guy.....

The light your talking about is not the same light as we are seeing from the sun with our limited senses...yeah?.....so to my question...yes there is light in space...cool......but to our senses my statment is true.....

My native american teachings have always led me to believe nature is the example, find a precedent that nature has working and then design around that......I guess my point was that I think in the way the light we percieve manifests, Tesla saw the example in nature he could copy....not surprisingly, just the way our subconscious works... I think he sort of stumbled across it but he recognized it the moment he saw it....

It seems "ironic" or maybe "poetic" that the "key" to free energy could be the little blue spark that is right in front of us everyday...

ChrisBowers's picture

Waz happenin' brotha man!  I knew what you were relating to, having to do with what our eyes can see, but I just had to share that little epiphany that your post reminded me of.  I have the whole book of Tom Valone's "Harnessing the Wheelwork of Nature - Tesla's Science of Energy" in PDF form if anyone would like a copy (the PDF link above is the introduction to it).

email: [email protected]

the book can also be purchased at Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Harnessing-Wheelwork-Nature-Teslas-Science/dp/1931882045

In any case, I am very excited about what we are getting close to these days concerning that very energetic womb of ZPE Aether, and a better understanding of harnessing it.  I suspect these discoveries are already being utilized by some (breakaway civilization?), and that the many installations of HAARP type arrays around the globe are part of that "free energy" usage by a elite few, but that's obviously just a hunch and wild guess....

p.s. actually Jez, I wasn't quite sure what you were getting at, what your primary point was in your forum post.  could you elaborate on that?

I wanted to know if there was light in space.......first and foremost and thanks for your info......it's not an easy thing to search..... 

I just think that free energy is staring us in the face and that it has been hidden from us with subtle mis-information....there are people who know what Tesla knew....what are the bits we are missing....I don't think Tesla went to the quantum level to work free energy out.....he was all about practical science.....and I believe he did work out how to do it.......it's 1:47am, I have been up this 4am yesterday, went sking today, can't sleep....Lol....there maybe no point.....hehehehe..it's just interesting stuff....

 

Thanks,

Brian's picture

I hope Tesla's happy in Heaven because he was a pretty public spirited guy and wasn't out to be the richest guy. IF I'm being dense about your question I apologize in advance   You ask if light can be seen in space and I guess since you can see the stars from your space suit or inside a capsule the easy answer would be "yes" but are you asking more? (I think the sunlight on the moon is so blinding that you can't see the stars in photos) Light can be seen from inside Hubble telescope cameras but I don't know if they have gas or air inside them(an atmosphere).What if you took off your space helmet for a second? (!)

"If a tree falls in the woods and no one's there to hear it does it make a sound? No

Sound is your eardrum vibrating I'm told. So if there's no one to see light does it exist? Hmmm-I guess so-it would make plants grow or it would dry out a planet that had water but no atmosphere...(Mars?)

Did you ask a more esoteric question?

In Quantum mechanics experiments they found out light is a wave of energy that leaves evidence on a light sensitive background material it is shot at. Until someone observes it "in flight"(even if it's only a machine observing) and then it becomes a particle before it hits the wall and leaves a different pattern. The observer "collapses the wave function" (maybe my favorite scientific phrase of all time). So-does light exist before it's observed in some way? I guess so-as waves...

If the Universe is an illusion-like maybe a game we play-would it exist without us?  The fossil record shows a plant fossil appeared one day where before there was only rock. Same with animals. Then there was us. It could all just be a VERY clever game of us creating evidence on the fly...that's my fav theory. (How else can you explain group Intention experiences where we create peace or hasten the oil spill cleanup or we heal from a spiritual healers medicine? That implies creating stuff out of nothing to me).

So if you take one thing that stands out and say "is this really there?" then you could argue it isn't 'cause nothing is.

Hi Brian,

I'm not asking if it is there as such...I am back tracking it's point of manifestation and trying to understand the natural process that creates it.....

I am just observing nature and as I said earlier, for the purpose of copying it....you see if you set up the conditions to make the blue spark and then collect the blue spark when it appears...you are making energy with almost no work being done........which is all free energy is...I think the PTB love us to overcomplicate things and imagine they are huge and beyond us when in fact they are simple and easily obtainable......imagine Tesla's workshop...his tools, castings etc....would be so basic by todays standards but had all he needed....

Brian's picture

I knew I was dumb to write that. Sorry for misunderstanding. I like the stories about earth energy from the old days when they were learning to ground the telegraph wires properly. They found the telegraphs didn't need batteries anymore because they were collecting energy on their own. I just watched this demo of a new energy device. (I put the video below) It appears to be heavily grounded too. I wonder what that is all about.
I have this kind of "affinity" for, or maybe just a passion about lightning and surge suppression. I was running into increasingly expensive lightning damage to home electronic systems I installed. (God, I hope I havent already told this story before). I went thru this great learning phase of finding what works because so much surge protection fails to work when you need it. Good grounding(earthing) is far more difficult in North Carolina too. Even with heavy gauge and tightly bonded wiring to a ground stake, nearby lightning would still blast stuff to smithereens. Finally I found a guy who's this very rare bird-a surge and lightning expert at the practical level. He even designs and builds custom surge protection gear. It was fascinating to learn and we partnered on many projects where I had clients who were hit by massive lightning strikes close to their home repeatedly. There was a period over a couple of years that made lightning insanely more powerful and frequent here. Some clients had damage from nearly every storm and that could be in the same week or multiple times per month even. It was scary. I even had some clients who's house was hit directly and caught fire and that happened in my neighborhood too. Some solutions involved astonishing amounts of equipment and incredibly heavy grounding solutions with huge chemical-filled ground rods, exothermic welding of 1" thick copper ground cables etc to finally stop the lightning damage on their sophisticated and expensive systems. I learned so many painful lessons on what doesn't work... Sometimes it seemed The God's were f'ing around with us too. Then it all changed. The Earth didn't seem to want to be struck so much and so hard anymore. I don't know what happened. Maybe space weather??

It was all strangely fascinating to me. I love storms. I love lightning. Here was a mysterious, capricious and powerful phenomena of the Earth and us humans comically struggling to protect fragile technologies that use a microscopically smaller version of lightning to function. Ever heard "Lightning never strikes twice in the same spot"? Lightning will gladly, enthusiastically, strike the exact same spot over and over if it damn well pleases. In fact, it's sometimes MORE likely to hit the same spot again. I think we will harness it for clean power somehow.

Your observing of the blue spark really opened up my mind to possiblities jez. I hadn't considered the suppression of thought in observing everyday energetic nature but now that you mention it, I've come across something before but didn't believe I could be right and "science" or "engineers" were wrong. I also think I need to consider not always resolving questions via Google searches (or other mainstream sources) alone. It's too convenient-like junk food.  I liked old Tesla's story. Let us know of your observations PLEASE!

Here's that free energy demo-looks to be the real thing- Cheers:

 

ChrisBowers's picture

Very cool video, no moving parts like Tom Bearden's patented MEG.  Thanks Brian!

Brian's picture

I forgot to say I pulled it from the PESwiki site. The page is here.

I check it out regularly for the latest coolnesses.


Hey Brian,
That is a cool video.......wouldn't it be great if we could all get a proper look at something like that, looks simple enough to build with the right drawings........
I love lightning and storms as well...saw a bolt hit a power line once...a bit of a bang and a few sparks but not that spectacular, all the power in the area instantly went out....
I also saw a guy once who was taking drops of water, very small like that out of an ink jet printer and hitting them with a high voltage spark, like a gas burner or oven might use....it was a weapon and would explode out in a large bolt of "lightning"....obviously I never saw it go any further.....Lol....his vid was freaky....it was powerful and how ever he was doing it he was definitely shooting a bolt of lightning which isn't a bad feat in itself...Lol.......
Yeah you have the concept of what I was saying and if you want to try something alternative have a look at this guy...
Ed Leedskalnin, again he is putting forth a new theory of something that we think we "know" and as a result probably are open to be blinded.....the devil will tell you a thousand truths but the one little lie he adds changes the lot.....what lie have we been sold?..... Ed has a pamplet on magnetic current and after some searching I found a good copy online, I think I still have it and if your interested I can probably find it.....he was definitely an interesting guy....


Brian's picture

That's what I'm talking about! I agree jez that it looked extremely easy to build and to replicate. He says they need to work on safety issues. I wonder what he means. He also said that the device could produce x amount of power but "today we're doing..." and it was a lesser amount. Does this mean they have a somewhat variable output they can't yet control? That reminds me of the cold fusion replications that are working. A "big" issue is the irregular nature of the output in many experiments. And anti-free energy people scream and holler about that. I heard it said that this is often the case with new breakthroughs-you have a period where you have to learn how to make it consistent, but people are pretending that isn't the norm...

Chris -I just thought about the telegraph wires thing but in the present day: You know those super tall "high tension" power line towers that come from the generating stations? Next time you drive by one notice there are either one or two thinner wires mounted higher than the heavier power wires. They are lightning capture wires and they are grounded directly to the Earth at the towers. There are thousands, maybe millions of miles of these passive collectors. I wonder what secrets of earth energy could be gleaned from studying them...

Does anyone have an opinion on the effect of free energy adoption on society? The positive effects and the negative ones? I have been thinking of the issues outside of the PTB/NWO/MIB;-) issues and thinking from my old view of how society functions. Is it possible WE are holding it back though group intention or thought forms out of some kind of concern?

 

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