Good Greetings:
I am reading an online book about the Iagarians that contacted a man in 1969 in the Netherlands. I welcome all to read the book along with me... I am intrigued by this new connection. -fairy
http://www.galactic-server.net/rune/iarga.html
Hi FFG,
Thank you for this posting, I loved it...I am amazed how creating a just future of abundance and self correction is so prevalent in premonitions and contact experiences. When I meditate I see a society much the same in our future.Stef of the Earth, is quite unselfish to have come forward so early on, so I guess he understood the message of the Iagarans, which I took to be ' for the good of all '.
I am still reading it---I find the material to be refreshing and emotionally moving...
fairyfarmgirl
Fascinating! Whether you believe this book is fiction or non-fiction, it's an illuminating story. (I've read only one chapter so far).
The Iagarians' description of their planet makes me want to live in a society like that.
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"Their amount of dry land is much less that that of Earth, so they have to be extremely efficient in how they run their society. Stefan viewed the most amazing transoceanic rail connections and housing facilities. They also have no money on Iarga. They have an entirely different kind of political and economic system based on total equality for all. They call this system cosmic economics. It is not like communism or capitalism.
They hold selfless service, immortality, and cosmic integration as their highest goals. There are no class distinctions and chores are shared by everyone. The women are total equals to men. Their society is totally based on a type of "Christian love".
Their sex drive is totally different than on Earth, for theirs is born completely of love and not lust. A man and woman relationship, based only on sex would be considered completely degrading. The consciousness is very much in tune with mind over matter.
They view Earth’s isolation as being that not only of isolation from extraterrestrial intelligence, but also from God and the goals of His creation.
Our isolation will end when the masses of humanity acknowledge God and their true purpose for being on Earth."
The author of the Matrix V series describes these kinds of societies as the result of sequential incarnations. They are often illustrated in Hollywood movies and such - think of the Vulcans in Star Trek. While these kinds of arrangements sound utopian to us here - they are missing the whole point of why we are here. In those societies - they value uniformity, and virtually require that everyone be essentially the same (equality for all etc). The reason WE do not create that kind of world here (and most likely never will) is because we are NOT sequential incarnations. And we have created this world to experience something that does NOT require all of us to be the same - indeed our differences are our strength.
The ET utopian planets have no different races, no different political structures, and very little room for any of the inhabitants to be anything different than what they have created. That's not a bad thing mind you - since that is what sequential societies are all about. Ours is not set up that way - and we need to understand that ultimately - we don't want that. We have come here to experience chaos, and the opportunity that comes with it. We ultimately want to evolve into something much beyond the sequential ideas of utopia.
Listen to the post Chris made regarding James Horak and huge ships (the size of our planet) in the corona of the sun. He speaks repeatedly of our planet as being an experiment that is about to come to an end. We are experimenting with multiple incarnations all across the time line of this planet. Now think about how that would work on a utopia planet that has been stable and everything has been the same for thousands of years. What difference would there be to the experience of your incarnation if you were on the planet today or 500 years ago? Probably very little. Compare that though with Earth. Very different experiences!
Anyway - just a thought to keep in mind. From this perspective - turning Earth into a homogenous planet like other ET worlds would be a giant move backwards for us. We are already ahead of that idea - and the ET's actually know this and respect us for being here. We're like the sailor heading out towards an unknown horizon. The only way to know what is out there is to make the journey!
I think this sums up what you're talking about, Jeff:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/valdamar_valerian/esp_valdamar_valerian_12e.htm
So, Jeff, since all human incarnations occur simultaneously, does that mean we don't actually have "past lives?"
Who or what is shim?
Ahhh, but you have not the complete book. The Iagarians clearly state that their greatest barrier is individual creation. In order to ascend they must master individuality and Unity.
There is much to be learned from the Iagarians about how to create a resource based economy. It is a resource not a model to be copied.
When has Humankind ever copied a working model of social ordering and behavior? When have we ever come together in unity in this Epoch?
The debate over the values of unity push against the very unity everyone says they wish to create.
--Fairy
As long as we are individuals, there will be debate. We all have are own ideas about what Unity should look like.
My father used to say, half-jokingly, "The world would be perfect if everyone was like me."
A consensus reality is made up of individuals who are sovereign and in agreement. Discourse is valued over debate.
It would do us well to focus on creating a consensus as a body of Humankind rather then debating on which way is the best way.
I think the world is perfect with only one of me. Not sure if it could handle 2 of me or more. :).
Fairy
I agree with Fairy - there is much we can take from the model - without becoming that ourselves. And the consensus reality is the organic result of where we take OURSELVES individually - so I like that concept. Noa - a "past" life is only in relation to "future" incarnation to it on the time stream. So as we are experiencing time - we have past lives. But from a higher perspective - where there is no time - they are all happening at once. Shim is a combination of she and him - shim - no gender for spirit, shim is both!
Oh, that's like another word I sometimes use for her/his. I call it "hes."
This book has long been one of my favorites for the balanced way the Iargians live on their planet. I just loved it.
Here's a video interview with the author, Stefan Denaerde. Cool!
Part I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXueHVKRCS8
Part II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt_P24Bi5D8&NR=1
Noa, I would agree with the Igarians Definition of Culture. --Fairy
As I read the book, I notice that the Iargan's housing system is strikingly similar to the Venus Project model. This passage, about culture, particuliarly stands out for me:
"It is only through this system that a race can achieve a cultural level of social stability. And from there onward toward immortality. It is the cosmic condition, based on natural laws."
"What's your definition of culture, then, exactly? I'm beginning to think that we define the word differently."
"That's a very important question, Stef. Culture is the measure through which a society caters to the least fortunate man. The measure in which the sick, invalid, old or poor people are taken care of. In short, the measure of collective unselfishness." "But what has this got to do with immortality?"
"Just this, that unselfishness makes an intelligent race immortal.
Try only to understand how we have used the three essentials of higher culture - freedom, justice and efficiency - in our world, and what culture really is to Us."