Bill Elkin
I just commented on one of your posts....by the way thanks for a great job of getting information out that the brain dead need to experience...Mabey there is something I do not know but I am really annoyed be the people picking on the Freemasons. I am a 32 degree mason. I have never heard of any of the stuff we are being acc...used of in... any of our rituals...It is all about being a better person and helping your fellow man...such as crippled blind or burned children....I am fairly informed and read every one of your and many other posts ...Humanity is in real trouble at the moment...and I assure you It has nothing to do with Freemasons......Your thoughts please
I just commented on one of your posts....by the way thanks for a great job of getting information out that the brain dead need to experience...Mabey there is something I do not know but I am really annoyed be the people picking on the Freemasons. I am a 32 degree mason. I have never heard of any of the stuff we are being acc...used of in... any of our rituals...It is all about being a better person and helping your fellow man...such as crippled blind or burned children....I am fairly informed and read every one of your and many other posts ...Humanity is in real trouble at the moment...and I assure you It has nothing to do with Freemasons......Your thoughts please
Old Neale who sits behind me at work is also a Free Mason, won't tell us what degree, he is also a justice of the peace and a former solldier....he spends much of his time trying to help people...I have no issue with him and am confident that the "conspiracy" theories with Freemasons are nothing to do with the reality of Mason's as he has experienced it....
L
Jez
From what I understand, only a small select group of masons at the very top is privy to the secret society stuff. The masonic symbols are commonly used in association with the Illuminati, especially the 33rd division. There is particular controversity regarding Albert Pike, partly because of his quote, "LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light…Doubt it not!" and his predictions http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm
Maybe Freemasons are just being set up to be the "fall guy." It's possible this is all a wild rumor. Even so, it's hard to ignore the "evidence." It's all over the web.
Masonic symbols stand alongside all those scary doomsday murals at the Denver Airport. http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/denver.html
Masonic symbols have also been linked to the Georgia Guidestones and the layout and buildings of Washington DC. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/chapter3/
I agree, most Freemasons are innocent and unaware of any secret activities.
I know nothing of the 33 degree....therefore...I can not speak of ...I do know through 32 degrees there is nothing....that is all my post is about....it has been 40 years since I have been active in the order...be it as it may....Love and Light..........
...from lots of reading, only 33rd degree Masons are ever approached by the Illuminaty. I also think that FreeMasons, Illuminaty, Rosicrucians and others, are smoke screens put in place by the real PTB to keep people barking up the wrong tree. The real PTB have been very successful in remaining anonymous and if someone handed you a list of them tomorrow, you wouldn't know who any of them were anyway. Compartmentalization is key in protecting any secret because no one you can talk to has the full story and they are not aware of who has other parts of the story. While it's true that there are conspiracies, the theory part applies to figuring out who is responsible and this we may never know even if all of the compartments are exposed and their plans be thwarted. I think that this drive for world domination by a few is as old as the human race (since the fall) and is the grand lesson that we must learn in order to advance. After much of the human race has moved on to 4th density, these dark ones will start over again in 3rd density and probably be the ones who are dominated. It is, after all, a repeating cycle which reflects the struggle for balance between being and non being.
Cheers to the Good Masons!
Billy,
My grandfather and uncle were both Masons and were both extremely upstanding individuals in the community. I believe as someone has posted above, most of the membership is made up of good folks wanting to do good things for their peers and their communities and that in the very uppermost eschelon you may find some evil doers who've known all along how to usurp their power for advancement and potential wrongdoing. Don't we find that almost everywhere (unfortunately)?
I don't know what goes on at the Masonic Lodge in any ritual, but I do know my grandfather, who was a policeman in the 40's, 50's and 60's was one of the most honest and honorable men I have ever known. He would never have been involved in anything that was not moral or hurt women, children or society in general if he had any knowledge of it at all.
William Henry offers some interesting ideas in 'Freedom's Gate' as well as many other areas. If you've never seen William, take a look at his website. I had the pleasure of meeting with him and about 15 others last summer at a friends home in Traverse City. It was a remarkable weekend.
As to Pike's "LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! " Drunvalo Melchizedek speaks of Lucifer's role in the second Flower of Life book in a way that makes more sense to me-it's near the end of the book and I don't have it near by, but you might want to check it out.
I was surprised while visiting the homestead of President Andrew Jackson this summer to find that he was Grand Master of Tennessee (at least that's what the sign said posted near his grave). I know most of our presidents were/are Masons but the hero who ousted the central banks from our nation? That made me question the whole free masonry thing.
Wendy
Check out Manly P Halls "The Secret Teachings of All Ages" - he unravels much of the Masonic symbolism etc. It's a classic!
Hi All-
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but here it is. I just love Michael Tsarion. Here he starts to contradict the main theme of this thread but later in the interview confirms that there are only certain masonic lodges and other secret societies frequently controlling the vast bulk of the masons. He also talks a lot about how we need to fight heirarchy with what he terms holography - I just love this term - more of the same theme we've been seeing in other video posts lately - "Us Now" and "Kymatica".Mi
http://truthfrequencyradio.com/archives/3714?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TruthFrequencyPastShowArchive+%28Truth+Frequency+Radio+-+Episodes%29
Wendy
Fighting Hierachy will only reinforce the heirachy. Transforming the Heirachy now that is something that will create lasting change... beginning with those who are are Masons themselves. I have no issue with the Masons I know. They are the kindest bunch I have ever known... I can not speak to the validity of the Conspiracy Theorist concerning the Masonic Orders... Although, I do know in many Christian Churches there exists great inequity and children are preyed upon for power. This is truth...and it is really visible now. So it is within the Masons that this would be transformed by the empowering of each individuals transformation.
LOVE is very contagious. Be careful for you may fall victim to its transforming wiles and find yourself actually Loving yourSelf and your neighbors--- you may even see all as One. Egads!
Fairy
Wendy's post lead me to this video featuring David Noakes. He talks about the Freemasons connection about halfway through this particular part of the interview.
Hi Wendy,
I think it is important to remember that if we are fighting anything outside ourselves we are guaranteed to be fighting ourselves within....transformation happens when we stop fighting..fullstop
We can effect change without fighting and in essence it is the only way we can achieve real change
L
Jez
Hi Guys-
Yes, good point I should have used the word transform, not fight. The hopeful message of "Us Now" is that holography is already beginning naturally. We are the individual brain cells of the new mother earth when we are connected through the internet - The Global Brain Awakens. Those who would replace hierarchy with another heirarchy will never get what they really want - freedom, justice, etc.
I see this happening with the Zeitgeist movement - it is not calling for individual freedom but wanting to replace the top of the heirarchy with a computer or some form of logic without ever determining who gets to decide what's logical and what isn't, which is why I'm so against it. It is doomed to be corrupted because it holds onto a top down / control mentality rather than embracing the holographic model that respects individual freedom to choose.
Wendy