Pilot forgot to turn off Chemtrail spray before landing

Here's a commentator from InfoWars claiming that in humid conditions, this phenomenon is common when planes land:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTeqBwf2Ic

This relates to the vido (scroll down that page). 

However, I'm wondring about the photo at the top, which seems to have been taken on a clear day, but still it may have been more humid than it looks.  In any case, the spray pattern there looks identical to the pattern in the video.  Or could the spray in the photo have been photoshopped in?  Just asking questions.

Chances are enormous at this point that chemtrails are real.  But it would help to have some irrefutable evidence similar to this.

I'm out in the country in Manitoba, and it's quite common to see chem trails, and usually we have a relatively low humidity. This isn't just one plane going across the sky once. This is usually two planes zigzagging the sky all day long, in a deliberate crosshatch pattern. Their plumes are much larger than those of regular passenger or crop dusting aircraft, and they spread out wide as they dissapate.

When they have been spraying, I notice that I feel general malaise and sinus pressure for about two weeks afterwards.

Something that my husband and I have played with is deliberately concentrating on clearing the skies, with a focus of positive, healing energy. Could be our wishful thinking, but they seem to clear faster when we do that!

Peace,

Trish

"Something that my husband and I have played with is deliberately concentrating on clearing the skies, with a focus of positive, healing energy. Could be our wishful thinking, but they seem to clear faster when we do that!"   I think that is awesome keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      It works for me as well and not just with chem trails. Everything in my life happens that way. I think about what I want or who I can help and my family and I focus on it and boom it comes into our lives . I am happy to hear it works for you as well and try it on some other things if you have not already. Keep it positive has helped as well, we have started gratitude journals at dinner everynight we started  at the beginning of this year .   Let me tell you it has worked wonders in all of our personal lives, seeing the good in your day instead of focusing on the other .

Eric loves you all............

First of all, we need to know the difference between contrails -- naturally occuring condensation of water vapor during certain atmospheric conditions; and chemtrails -- aerial aerosol chemical spraying.  It's very easy to tell the difference.  Contrails evaporate in under a minute, while chemtrails persist, sometimes for hours, eventually turning into toxic clouds which dump their payload on every living thing.  Some of the latest generation chemtrails spiral as they disperse into cloud formations.

The existence of chemtrails is not debatable.  There are numerous aerial spraying, cloud-seeding, weather modification patents on this technology.  This plot is decades old.

http://coto2.wordpress.com/2010/11/06/chemtrails-list-of-patents-for-stratospheric-arial-spraying-programs/

I live in a remote rural area, far from commercial airline traffic, yet the sky is criss-crossed with chemtrails.  These are not normal flight patterns.  Just ask yourself, would a commercial jet carrying passengers head towards another jet at right angles?  It's amazing to me how many people still deny the existence of such a blatant conspiracy that is "hidden" in plain sight.

As for counter measures, I agree that visualization and prayer can dissipate chemtrails.  I used to make a ritual of saying Ho'Oponopono at the daily onslaught of chemtrails.  I've even "erased" them with my finger.  I stopped doing this, however, because this practice coincided with some extremely bizarre negative things coming into my life.  (You may have read my recent post about my terrifying experience of being chased through the woods.  I was traumatized into cutting back on doing spiritual counter-measures, but now enough time has passed that I'm no longer afraid to renew my efforts.)

Other things that we can do is to make orgone.  The most effective form is called a chemtrail buster.  I haven't tried this because I rent an apartment, but I know people who swear by it.  Orgone also helps to mitigate harmful EMFs emitted by cellphone towers and wireless devices.

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/goodbyects10jan02.shtml

For more info on chemtrails, see http://aircrap.org/

"It works for me as well and not just with chem trails. Everything in my life happens that way. I think about what I want or who I can help and my family and I focus on it and boom it comes into our lives ."

That is awesome! I am really happy to hear you guys do this because I'm trying it a lot too. At work today I saw that a problem I was trying to fix would be either a 1 minute easy fix or hours of hard effort and struggle. I focused on the easy path outcome briefly (I guess it was almost like a prayer? I knew it was outside my control) and then forgot about it and it worked! In the past, I "chose" the hard way because I thought it was reasonable and easy was unreasonable. I owe this lesson in intention to my old workmate Jim, who always seemed to have fewer challenges doing the same work. He was striving to have things go as quickly and as smoothly as possible. He had this indescribable way of not trying so hard even though he was very focused. I had been trying too hard and so things needed to be hard I guess.

Cheers

    Great to hear thank you so much for sharing !!!!

    Eric loves you all..............

No one who has seen me comment on chemtrails before will be surprised to hear me say I think there is a natural explanation. The plane has vortices that trail the wings in certain places that normally are invisible but occassionaly show up as skinny tornados trailing the wings. The most common one is at the wing tips and they produce a very well defined skinny cone of moisture as the wing cuts thru the air. I have seen them appear on planes many times during landing etc but especially during fog or high moisture.       

Have you noticed that almost all airliner wings now have this little upright bend at the end that sticks straight up? (see image 3) It is a recent improvement that helps reduce the vortice at the wingtips to reduce drag. Airliners wings also have these extra surfaces that get stuck out of the wings during takeoff or landings to allow more lift at slower speeds (If you've flown you probably saw them). If you notice the 3rd picture above has the really distinct vortices form at the edge of the trailing flaps or stabilizers) that stick out of the back edge of the wing during landing. These flaps don't go all the way to the end of the wings so the twister isn't at the wingtip-see?It's where the air is most disturbed.

  ...note the caption.

OK, but there are more than just the two distinct vortices in the chemtrail video: Many airliners have multiple vertical 'stubs' under the wings for the flaps or stabilizers and to avoid having air slip horizontally under the wing during turns. These also disturb the air and create momentary vortices. In the image above you can see a couple of these vertical things under the wings. Now go back and watch the chemtrail video again and pause it at exactly 0:08 seconds. Notice the vertical pieces protruding from the bottom of the wing? Incidentally, the image above is of a normal landing not chemtrails.

This high flying image shows the many effects the complicated wings produce during flight. There are vortices creating contrails at wingtips, from the engines spinning, and from the various interruptions in the wing geometry from the little vertical stubs, and the mostly retracted flaps. There would be less disturbance if they didn't put all these adds onto the wings.

Shows some of the complexity during landing or takeoff configuration. Notice there is some trailing fog starting. Imagine in extremely foggy air! Some more images: 

          haha

WWII planes: They got time to make chemtrails? Don't think so.
   

 When i was a kid, I used to spend hours watching aircraft fly over my house in NJ though a telescope and by eye. A little ADD maybe? I learned a few things about how planes effect the sky with contrails and how weather makes all the difference in contrails. When I got older, I wondered how the sky would get clouded over from contrails sometimes and my personal theory is it's due to the layers of pollution that have been building in specific altitudes. I have a friend who is a commercial pilot who told me no matter where you fly from, there is always this brown haze at X thousand feet-worldwide. I think it makes contrails not fade away as fast too but it's just a theory.

About the chemtrail conspiracy: Next time you fly, ask your flight attendant how he/she feels about keeping silent about the poison the plane is raining down on their loved ones (surely they have noticed when the flight crew turns on the spigots and starts hosing chemicals out of the plane). Maybe ask the pilot how he can live with himself. Maybe confront the chemtrail refilling truck guy when he is filling up the thousands of gallons of chemicals they need each flight(somehow they never let me see that truck even when the flight is hurriedly being refueled and I can see the plane from many angles before boarding). Remember that every single commercial pilot, mechanic, crew member, refueling crew, executive, ticket taker, flight line jockey, baggage handler, control tower guy and air traffic controller has to keep quiet about poisoning us.  Imagine the money they must get paid to keep silent! Wonder how they can keep a straight face when they would go on strike for better wages-really funny.----Remember the aircraft manufacturers? Incredible that Boeing, Airbus etc can design these planes with their big chemtrail dispersal systems and somehow they can keep their 10's of thousands of employees silent. Someone trains thousands of mechanics to maintain these systems and yet not a peep is heard from them. Must be paid really well. Strange the mechanics go on strike for better wages. What a hoot.

So far they have done better than the Manhatten Project at keeping it all secret. Right?

Noa is right; there is a lot of evidence out there.  Of course, few of us have the time to investigate everything.  Brian, I respect your investigation into the "innocent" view of what we call chemtrails, and I do find those old photos interesting.  But they aren't conclusive.

The simple fact of those long-lasting and often criss-crossing patterns in the sky is enough to indicate that these "trails" are real enough, and that they probably aren't normal jet exhaust.  We see many planes flying along with their contrails evaporating not far behind them.  What we call chemtrails are clearly different.  They stay up there for hours -- even for a good part of the day.  And why criscrossing in clear grid patterns?  Commercial airliners don't fly that way.  Brian, you say that pilots have said that at certain altitudes contrails appear differently, but it still doesn't add up.  By the way, it seems to me that military aircraft are far more likely to be the carriers than commercial -- for the very reason you give: the difficulty in maintaining secrecy in a civilian, commercial enterprise.

I certainly don't remember having seen any such thing in my growing-up and early-adulthood years (contrary to you, Brian).  And I challenge anyone to find photographs going back some decades -- even to just the decade or two after the advent of large jet planes (commercial and military) -- that show these crisscrossing patterns in the skies.  If any such photos can be found, I'll be willing to entertain that there's a natural explanation for them.  If not, I have to stick with the provisional conclusion that these are put there on purpose for reasons that we're not being told, and that because we're not being told, the chances are great that the reasons are not friendly to us (living creatures).  Surely we've developed that much in the way of "street smarts" over the past several decades. 

And people who have had first-hand experience of actually seeing these patterns being laid down (or "up") in the skies above where they live, as Noa reports, pretty much have to conclude that there's an undisclosed agenda being played out, even if they can't say exactly what it is.

Provides analysis of precipitants; not a likely set of materials from normal contrails.

I recently received the following. Before I put it out I checked w Fred & a couple of others to vet it...They couldn't say yes or no; but Fred said he wouldn't be surprised...

rense.com
Source: via Email from James Gilliland at ECETI
11-9-7
“The United States does not torture.” –President George W. Bush
We are dealing with Star Wars. It involves the combination of chemtrails for creating an atmosphere that will support electromagnetic waves, ground-based, electromagnetic field oscillators called gyrotrons, and ionospheric heaters. Particulates make directed energy weapons work better. It has to do with “steady state” and particle density for plasma beam propagation.
They spray barium powders and let it photo-ionize from the ultraviolet light of the sun. Then, they make an aluminum-plasma generated by “zapping” the metal cations that are in the spray with either electromagnetics from HAARP, the gyrotron system on the ground [Ground Wave Emergency Network], or space-based lasers. The barium makes the aluminum-plasma more particulate dense. This means they can make a denser plasma than they normally could from just ionizing the atmosphere or the air.
More density [more particles] means that these particles which are colliding into each other will become more charged because there are more of them present to collide. What are they ultimately trying to do up there — is create charged-particle, plasma beam weapons.
Chemtrails are the medium – GWEN pulse radars, the various HAARPs, and space-based lasers are the method, or more simply:
Chemtrails are the medium — directed energy is the method.
Spray and Zap.
This system appears to be in Russia, Canada, the United States, and all of Europe. Exotic weapons can be mobile, stationary, land-based, aerial, or satellite.
It is an offensive and defensive system against EM attacks and missiles. It uses ionospheric particle shells as defense mechanisms [like a bug-zapper shell]* against missiles and EM attacks. That means they spray and then pump up the spray with electromagnetics. When these shells are created using the oscillating, electromagnetic, gyrotron stations, it “excludes” and displaces the background magnetic field. These shells can be layered one above another in a canopy fashion for extra protection from missiles. The chemtrail sprays have various elements in them like carbon which can be used to absorb microwaves. Some of these sprays have metal flakes in them that make aerial craft invisible to radar. Spoofer sprays. Sprays like these can be used to create colorful, magnetized plasmas to cloak fighter jets.
There are satellite weapons involved. Activists are using meters and are getting readings of microwaves, x-rays, and some other kind of emission that they are not sure of, maybe a low-intensity laser.
They are also photographing gas plasma generation due to the heating of chemtrails by electromagnetics. The technical names for vertical and horizontal plasma columns are columnar focal lenses and horizontal drift plasma antennas. Various size of gas plasma orbs are associated with this technology. These orbs can be used as transmitters and receivers because they have great, refractory and optical properties. They also are capable of transmitting digital or analog sound. Barium, in fact, is very refractive — more refractive than glass.
What does that mean? Someone or someone(s)are very involved in unconstitutional, domestic spying and the entrained plasma orbs carried on electromagnetic beams can be used for mind control programming. The satellites can be programmed to track and monitor various frequencies on different parts of your body. These electromagnetic beams carrying the gas plasma orbs stick due magnetic polarity and frequency mapping and tracking to people’s eyes, ears, temples, and private parts. A beam with entrained orbs carries pictures in each orb just like the different frames in a movie. It is a particle beam that is also a frequency weapon.
The satellites download holographic mind control movies, pictures, sounds, and sensations to people through this technology. The Air Force has stated in “Air Force 2025″ that their goal is to develop virtual and augmented reality mind control. Depending on the how the computer is programmed or depending on the mood or intent of the person interfacing with the technology, you can be probed, bothered, gaslighted, frightened, manipulated, electronically raped, or tortured. It scans your brain frequencies and deciphers your thoughts. The satellites track you by mapping your bioenergetic signature [body biometrics] and constantly scanning an area to find you.
We are the lab rats for this technology and something is very wrong in the military or intelligence branches somewhere. Because developmental projects in government and military are often so compartmentalized, I suppose someone could be using and developing this technology secretly and without authorization. Then again, behavioral and mind control programs were an authorized policy under MKULTRA. Our country has a history of experimenting on its citizens. We are talking about satellite charged-particle frequency weapons attacking a person 24 hours a day. Psychotronic weapons are considered weapons of mass destruction by the U.N.
“HAARPs” can create earthquakes and can also x-ray the earth to find underground military bases, gold, or oil reserves. These ionospheric heaters can also operate as an over-the-horizon or under-the-ocean communications system. This system can control the weather or create disasters. Taken together with the aurora keyhole through-your-roof satellite surveillance system, Echelon electronic computer/phone sweeps, plasma-cloaked DOD Drug War helicopters and stealths, implants, and cameras on the street, it constitutes one, big global and space control grid.
These weapons involve beams. Two beams overlapped will couple into a particle-ion beam that will bounce off of a remote target and send a holographic image back to the satellite for remote spying operations. When you cross two strong beams, you can supposedly* create scalar energies. These energies can be used as untraceable weapons for nuclear size explosions or for defense. These crossed-energies can be used to cause a person’s physical electrical system to fail or with a lower frequency, administer a kind of remote electro-shock. Visualize touching a positive and negative electric cable to each other on top of your head. Scalar energies can be utilized in hand-held military guns and on tanks. They can dud-out electronics or cause large, electrical blackouts. Scalar energies are practically impossible to shield against. You need lead, ceramics, and a deep underground facility to not be affected by these weapons. Or, you need to be up and above the field of battle.
People who are working on these issues hear tones and hums. If you hear persistent tones and static; have body vibrations, burning sensations, “bangs” to the head, neurological damage, or immune system damage; are hearing electronic voices or hearing the sound of a plasma; suffering from pains deep in your organs or constant headaches; or experiencing other anomalous activity then you may be being targeted by directed energy, mind control weapons. These weapons could be on helicopters, jets, stealth fighters, or on satellites. Directed energy beams and electromagnetic waves can be sent to you via hand-held devices or piggy-backed in on cell phone and satellite towers.
Is it possible that someone(s) are very afraid of coming famines and riots due to the ongoing, man-induced failure of the ecological system, and they are saturating the earth with chemtrails for large- scale, gas plasma mind control? Is this the last grasp for the world’s resources? Or, are they just control freaks and money mongers? Someone would like to get to that oil under the melting [due to chemtrail-trapped EM heat] Artic. And, I guess the Third World is not a part of this system. I don’t think that the developed nations are going to let them in on this either.
Any country that joins this NATO system will become mind-controlled and diseased due to the associated, intense, oscillating, electromagnetic fields, electromagnetic soup, and the poisonous, toxic chemtrails. Our DNA will break. We risk the earth’s spin and tilt becoming messed up due to mucking around with the magnetic fields through this military technology. Maybe, it is already messed up.
It constitutes U.S. global domination via NATO and the erosion of civil rights. According to Charlotte Iserbyt and Al Martin, there are ex-KGB and ex-STASI advising our new Office of Total Information Awareness. They are the ones creating our new internal passports [national ID]. And under “The Treaty on Open Skies,” we have overflights by Russian and German military. Who exactly is flying those plasma-cloaked craft that are seen all over this country and mistaken for UFOs by people who do not know about this aerial deception technology? Obviously, we have another “Project Paperclip” in the making. We can add the new thugs to the 2,000 Iraqi brought into country by Daddy Bush who are now living in Nebraska.
The elitist corporate government is going to hold the rest of us hostage with directed energy weapons in space, if the Policy for a New American Century group – PNAC – Bush and cronies think tank has their way, along with directed energy attacks against any country or citizen that they decide they do not like. These weapons can create climate war, weather war, mind war, cyber war, disease war, disaster war, and undetectable war. Taken together they can create economic war.
If this system is not stopped, it will kill billions due to aluminum and barium poisoning. It will kill billions due to crop failures and world-wide famine. It will cause heart attacks, strokes, and cancers. It will cause stillbirths, miscarriages, and infertility. The chemtrail sprays often have fungi, bacteria, viruses, dessicated red blood cells, crystalline substances, carbon, metal cations, lithium, other chemicals, heavy metals, and God knows what – probably smart dust, or nanocrap. Years of biowarfare testing on the American public is no big secret anymore. Spraying germs in the sky where they mutate due to the ultra-violet light — brillant plan, my man. Are we acceptable losses or is this by design?
I know that many of the major players have big investments in pharmaceutical companies, GM seeds [seeds that can grow in an electromagnetic soup], weapons and directed energy development contracts, oil contracts, genetic research, and mind control research. Some of these people have had a familial history of financial and policy support for population control, eugenics, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, Pinochet, Hussein, and various other dictators. Some of the major players were the masterminds of the death squads in Central and South America. They stand to make a big profit on our death and disease. Just take a look at Rumsfield and Tamiflu.
I assume that they know the dangers of this system and that they take care to stay in their shielded, air-filtered offices, homes, bases, and cars. I assume they take chelating substances to remove the barium and aluminum from their bodies and minds. If not, then they really do not understand the far-ranging implications of this destructive system. Congress may not understand just what a terrible weapons system and control grid they are funding.
As I understand it, Tesla towers attached to deep-earth, free-energy taps are to be created over the 10-12 magnetic poles and the GWEN system phased-out. Has this already been done? This should allow total control of the earth through giant, Tesla death ray-guns. This natural, electromagnetic earth was not meant to be an un-natural dynamo to power man’s weapons or his utility companies.
Over-unity systems [Tesla devices]* are as of yet, another unexplored and probably not understood man-made energy. We should be very suspect of free energy. As we can see, the forms of man-made energy that have been created and used in the past have not been good for this planet. Maybe it is time to reconsider the options available to us through the development of crops for fuel, wind, solar, and water power. We need world-wide, different, more holistic, renewable, energy programs.
Is there any good news? Yes. There has been tons of particulate dumping through the spray operations for 8 years over the Americas, Europe, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, and from what I can find out, over Russia. And, what goes around blows around, right? So, these substances are probably actually global. It sure makes a ton of sense to spray poisonous elements in 24 NATO countries and let the substances be carried around the earth on the jet streams to poison yourself, your enemies, and all neutral and non-combatent countries. Talk about making more enemies.
The water, air, and soil of all of these countries is so saturated with metal cations that these weapons freaks should be able to zap and mind f–k each other quite well now and as often as they wish. Once they have clobbered each other with light-saber beams for a few years and razed and scorched sections of the earth, they may start to realize that this foreign policy will lead to a defective human race and a rotten economy.
Do you think they will have knocked some sense into each other by then and will decide that non-proliferation and arms reduction is the more civilized and mature direction to take in world affairs? I doubt it, cause only idiots would have developed horrific, planet-killer weapons like these. But, I’ll bet the rest of the planet will finally rise up and tell these juvenile delinquents to quit playing with those rayguns right this second.
After further thought on Bearden + — a big over-unity and free energy proponent of Tesla technology that makes energy off of boiling the ionosphere or stealing electricity from the mis-named “vacumn” called Life, I have decided that Bearden is telling us some, if not most, of the truth. Same for Eastlund.

To me, the above article makes a lot of sense.  From what I've learned, chemtrail spraying seems to have multiple purposes, which raises a lot more questions than it answers.  I'm glad we're having this discussion; it's an important one.

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I have a deep skepticism about chemtrails and I feel a strong concern that it is a completely unnecessary source of suffering in you all. I see fear and anxiety and it saps life from you. It means worry when maybe your energy could be spent loving your kids, families or partners or thinking something better about the world. Noa, I feel a special concern for you after your description of fallout. I can only imagine how frightening, alienating it is to feel you are having toxins rained down on you and your loved ones-what a chilling and disheartening thing. I could answer peoples questions or objections to my comments but it wouldn't satisfy anyone enough to release their belief. If you could ask the questions I posed and get the opposite answers then I can't reach you.

I feel highly confident I am able to see this particular subject clearly. I beg you all to not worry about it. It isn't worth your happiness because it isn't real.

Brian

Hi Brian,

I appreciate your desire to clear the "chaff" of what's real and what's imagined, and possibly save us from worrying and suffering needlessly. I can relate with that; there have been a lot of times where I've gotten very worked up about things that turn out to be not true, or not as bad as I had been worrying about.

My own experience is that I started seeing the unusual criss-cross flight patterns with heavy contrail distribution on a regular basis, and then did the research and found that this phenomenon has been sighted all over the world and has the name "chemtrails". And when I researched what its purpose might be, I found information about the HAARP project, and other possibilities that range from climate manipulation to population experimentation to psychological control to military defense. I don't hold that any or all of these are necessarily true; it seems to be a widespread coordinated effort, but beyond that I just don't know.

As Bob mentioned, I don't think these are passenger aircraft, so it wouldn't make sense to ask questions of any passenger aircraft personnel. My personal experience is that I notice a very marked difference between the contrails of regular aircraft and the ones that appear to be spraying.

Now that the weather is starting to cooperate out here (it's a very late spring for us!), if I do notice the flight patterns that I'm talking about on the weekend, I'll take pictures throughout the day and post them here. Perhaps there is a 'normal' explanation for it, maybe not! I'm open to having my belief bubbles popped. :-)

Love, Trish

Brian, choosing to examine disturbing things isn't equivalent to living in fear.  ...Whether it's chemtrails or anything else.

It's easy to impute an emotion to someone else that we may be feeling ourselves.  If someone is asking questions about disturbing things, it doesn't mean that they're wrapped up in fear.  Sometimes people avoid asking questions out of fear of what they might find.  Is it possible that you may be reading your own fear into people's comments?  I can't answer that question because I'm not you; I can only pose it.

I notice that for myself, chemtrails, mind control, martial law, being poisoned, the NWO, the end of the world and death don't bring up fear.  Why is that?  I think that the willingness to look right at all of these things, see what evidence there is, and go through the fire of initial fear, disorientation, and horror -- makes a person immune to fear in the long run.  If you you really go through the fire, there's no fear on the other end.  That's my own experience.  When I look away from the computer screen, I leave chemtrails or whatever else it is behind and live my life as positively as I can.  And I'm not unique in this. We can't carry it all, all the time; that's crazy-making.  And awareness of something doesn't mean carrying it all the time.

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A final revisit to chemtrails per se...  We can't do anything about it if we dismiss it.  There's no substitute for hard looking.  I consider the below to be basic and substantial evidence.  If there are points here that can be refuted, then let's hear it.

Eyewitness accounts and photo/video evidence:  of trails coming from specific points on the wings (not from the engines or flowing generally off the wings like water vapor); planes laying down a trail, looping back and laying down another line, and another; clear photos from satellite of contained grid patterns over certain areas of land; clear vidoes of trails suddenly "turned on" and then "turned off" in planes with no contrails coming from engines or vapor from wings.  Hard to ignore evidence like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZaJEMsSwM and here former FBI chief agent Ted Gunderson on his own observations, attests to the reality of chemtrails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-f-3fWh5mA

Industrial hygeinist and former Air Force Bio-environmental engineer whistleblower reports on own observation and air-and-soil research, her own waking up re: chemtrails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrQPdLhhCNw   and   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHm0XhtDyZAI

OK. Shit. I don't know what to believe. I watched the first interview (superb interviewer from infowars BTW) with "Industrial hygeinist and former Air Force Bio-environmental engineer whistleblower" and it was very very convincing to me. She alluded to Airforce craft being used-that is plausable. I have to admit she sounded convincing but I don't know her so...She was in a position to observe suspicious activities going on under her nose.

"I notice that for myself, chemtrails, mind control, martial law, being poisoned, the NWO, the end of the world and death don't bring up fear." WOW. Wish this were true of me but I'm pretty much a bag of fears much of the time. It could be I need therapy to clear my plate to make room for confronting these matters. Bob, I hadn't considered you were confronting information and then popping out the other side OK. Many things here burden me with hopelessness. I am apparently doing it wrong

I listened to two different interviews with Foster and especially Kimberly Gamble. She really blew me away with her calm and clarity and how she is grateful! for the crap they have had to endure from releasing "Thrive". I think I have a crush on her. She made me feel I could endure exploring the problems again and that going in is the way out.

Trish, I'm sorry if I underestimate yours and others ability to cope with what you know. I personally have come to a point of persistent crisis of not confronting my own demons so maybe that's why I believe you need a break. I have to say unneeded suffering is a white hot activating button for me when I think I can help so I was preparing to grit my teeth and suffer on for anyone with what i perceived as unwillingness to meet facts.

   This is the therapy!

Brian,

Much like Bob, I don't feel fearful when I read the things reported here, whether they are all true or not.  I use situations that might make others fearful to motivate me to use prayer, conscious meditation, peaceful action with the intention of not concentrating on what brings more pain, fear and chaos into the world. My suggestion would be not to be so focused on 'what' to believe with your head and determine instead what signals it sends to your head, heart and gut. From there, filter what feels true to YOU and just mull it over and digest it for awhile.  Listen with an open mind and choose love over fear.

Knowing what I do not wish to see in the world isn't the same as hiding my head under a barrel. It is the co-creator part of me seeing it differently and raising my own vibration which (if you believe we are all connected) in turn raises us all.  It might be a slow process or maybe enough of us are learning what is unacceptable to us all that it might suddenly reach that 'hundredth monkey' threshold and humanity may begin to actually understand that we do create much of our own bullsh*t and that it is us that can create something different as well.

I used to have a bumper sticker that said "humankind-BE both".  That's one I try to live by as simple as it seems.  As to your own demons, we all have or have had them and the best way to exorcise them is to recognize when and how they cause you to react and to learn to act from a higher part of you instead.  In everything, in every moment, we choose.  You can choose another way. No two of us follow exactly the same path, and there's nothing wrong with that. May your peace increase exponentially. kristyne

      No one else can convince you of that. I lived in Taos for 15 years and have seen some weird stuff there. Chemtrails were the least of it. My defining moment with chemtrails was not any "evidence" someone showed me, but a moment of irony. I was asked to build a safe access trail down the side of a real steep mountainside to access a riverbank. I did this job alone over the course of a few weeks, just me, a pinch bar, and a cumalong to reset some really big boulders(could of used ed leeskalin"s help) I was out there alone everyday,but had a little solar radio with me. The only thing I could pick up wasThom Hartman"s  syndicated show in the morning, so I would have it on .....So one day they get into talking and debating and denying that chemtrails exist. But through this debate,I could glance up and watch the planes build a huge web shaped pattern almost directly above me,,,,not just this day,,but almost every day. I had seen them hundreds of times, but,,listening to the endless, useless debate by politicians over whether they exist, while watching them layed out overhead brought me to the realization,not just that they exist, but even more so to see how useless politicians are. They have no talents, no skills, other than talking around the subject at hand. All they do is create budgets(with other people's money), and declare war.

      Meanwhile, in the time they effectively wasted saying nothing productive about the subject,or offering anything but promises to "look into it",,,,the web above me melded perfectly into a fine sheet, a layer as if it were shielding our whole county from something....

I agree that chemtrails are real, but I just want to point out that there are some legitimate reasons for planes to travel in a grid pattern. All the aerial photography that is collected and used by local and state governments for their GiS data bases as well as google earth and other mapping data bases is collected from planes flying in grid patterns. Unlike crop dusters these planes can travel very long distances in their grids but they are tiny airplanes, not the jet planes normally associated with chemtrails.

I just want to point this out because it kind of makes the grid pattern argument not the best one.

What gets me is Why? Here's where you are kind of left with some kind of weird alien agenda because it just doesn't make any sense unless the humans doing this have some kind of escape from earth plan going on.

About the grid patterns thing. I see these grids laid out too and I wondered if it was deliberate or if it was just a lot of air traffic going along different routes.

 First, here's a TED Talk with a graphic program showing air traffic. Notice the staggering amount of flights and how there are numerous grid patterns resulting. Watch from start to about 2:50 for air traffic.

 Here's an example of one 'map' on someone else's web page (It's Feb 2011 traffic only) click here

Thanks, Bob, for perfectly expressing my feelings on this subject. 

“Facing your fears robs them of their power” ~ Mark Burnett

Yes, Brian, it's scary to think about chemtrails and other conspiracies, but what's the alternative? -- to ignore it or pretend that it's something else? For me, that would be worse than facing the truth, no matter how horrible the facts may be.  How can I look my grandchildren in the face and tell them that I knew about the global plot to enslave humanity, but I did nothing to stop it?  I don't know exactly what we can do about all this, but I do think that as more people become aware of these issues, we will reach a critical mass which can then collectively make powerful changes to improve our lives on earth.

I appreciate the TED video as an alternative explanation, but I don't think normal flight patterns explain the chemtrail phenomenon.  Remember, those are satellite images spread out over an entire country.  In contrast, the intersecting grid patterns appearing over our heads are only a few miles apart from each other.  Sometimes I've seen two planes simultaneously flying at right angles towards each other.  The chemtrails don't stretch to infinity, rather they are concentrated into a relatively small geographical area.

If you need more compelling evidence for the existence of chemtrails, I recommend any video on this subject by Sophia Smallstorm.  She is calm and rational in her delivery and backs up her claims with evidence.  There used to be an excellent Youtube video of her lecture on Morgellon's Disease, but I don't see it anymore, so here's her audio interview on chemtrails:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQ-dp1sV5w  She really knows her stuff.  More can be found on her website:  http://www.aboutthesky.com/

I also invite everyone to watch What in the World are They Spraying?

And Why in the World are They Spraying?

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

Before dismissing chemtrails as a crazy conspiracy, we should all do our homework.  I'd like to know where the above photos came from and what each of them represents.  Please share the link.

The toxic payload of chemtrails is well-documented.  Affected soil and water test positive for aluminum, barium, viruses and human blood, among other things.  Morgellan's Disease, wherein strange inorganic fibers grow out through the skin of its victims is another side affect of chemtrails. This certainly would support the eugenics and transhumanism agendas.  And one has to wonder if it's any coincidence that while chemtrails are changing the pH of our soil, Monsanto is cornering the market on aluminum-resistant food crops.

Having personally lived in a rural area that was bombarded by chemtrails on a daily basis, I can bear witness to the metallic fallout visible every evening in my floodlights.  This was no natural phenomena.  There was no reason for these planes to be flying in an intersecting grid pattern from dawn and into the night over our farm.  The closest airport was 300 miles away.

It looked exactly like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mcxRXAznGPc

It's okay to be skeptical, but when we dismiss something so terrible so easily, who are we really benefiting?  We owe it to ourselves and all of humanity to dig deeper.  We deserve some answers.

There is little need to pay people hush money within a compartmentalized, hierarchial business model.  Few employees know or even care much about what is happening outside of their own jobs.  How much does a baggage handler need to know about flight protocols?  For that matter, even the pilot doesn't need to be privy to much outside of doing his job.  Remember, the usual cover story is that the chemtrails are beneficial... they reflect solar rays, thus reducing global warming.  If anyone gets suspicious and starts asking any unwanted questions, a simple threat to his/her job security is all that's needed to keep the secret safe.

And of course there will always be those who, even when presented with the evidence, won't believe it.

Published on May 16, 2013

 Is it fair to say everyone else here has largely decided they believe spraying is happening? People here tell me to keep an open mind to the evidence. I admit I see very compelling  testimony. OK-so where's your open-minded response to what I showed? No one indicated there was the slightest merit to what I presented:

Only Noa respond to points here.

Not one person said the TED video of air traffic routes showed a probable explanation of the patterns overhead. Not one. (my read here is that many seem to feel seeing those crossed patterns with ones own eyes is ample evidence alone to prove chemtrails so what about it?:

Noa said: " Remember, those are satellite images spread out over an entire country." Umm-Watch the TED video at 2:36! It is zoomed into ONE AIRPORT! This is only a few miles area Noa-EXACTLY the direct, compelling evidence that should make anyone pause and say-WTF! Look at all those criss cross patterns of flights everywhere you look! And when it is slightly more zoomed out, pause it and notice all those criss cross lines are individual flights that originate from airports-there are no planes turning tight 180's and going over the same ground except in the airport holding patterns! Wow-This isn't compelling?

I have pointed out that to keep many hundreds of thousands (millions?) of civilians working in aviation from talking about a great chemtrail conspiracy is highly unlikely.  No one thought this was an important point? OK-how would you do it?

 To account for the "chemtrails patterns" people see nationwide, would require incredible secrecy. Even if you turned off thousands of planes transponders (maybe you could do that with Air Force planes?), it would not be possible to hide the planes from radar. How would you keep all the air traffic controllers at thousands of airfields and airports from revealing that thousands of aircraft were flying around and endangering commercial flights?      (You guys have seen the aircraft-so how come no commercial or private pilots are complaining?)

IF there are no old pictures of aircraft blanketing the sky with contrails (except WWII) isn't it because there has been an explosion of growth of air travel world wide only more recently? Haven't you heard that before?    Haven't you heard about how the infrastucture to support so many flights strains the old systems? The near misses etc? 

It was said that there were decades of patents for the technology involved in weather control and geo-engineering. A patent means someone protected their idea. It does not mean the idea was implemented at all and in fact, the majority of patents just languish and are never used or become obsolete. That said, I suspect many of these patents are being experimented with-esp by military.

No one commented on the many photos presented of planes trailing vapor due to design of the wings etc. Only Noa asked a question-what was the source of the photos? Google. I thought I made an excellent case showing evidence of simple air disturbance being cause of trails behind planes. I thought I adequately explained the video that started this post. I did not? OK-Why?

 Asking questions or making points about why I'm mistaken would be appreciated. Just saying look at the evidence isn't responding to the contrary evidence I presented. That looks suspiciously like closed mindedness.

this will probably be considered a worthless p.o.v. by those who desire proof of their "reality".  it DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.  fuck conspiracies.  who cares.  looked at in another way, these are just another of the many forms of pollution and disharmony effecting us.  what do YOU do with it?  chemtrails?  i'm not worried.  transmute that shit!  it's why you're here, isn't it?  not to just sit around and whine about it or argue whether it's true or not.  relativities...

and it gets WAY more dark and complicated than that, if that's where you're choosing to look.  i'm sure there are things that would make the eyelids peel back in your heads.

and if you think i'm just blowing shit-smoke, check out wilhelm reich and tesla.  both of those guys had a line in to "prana", "orgone", whatever and knew how to tap it.  it can effect weather and emotions and elementals.  "cloud-bursting" and even "ufo-bursting" were documented by reich in the desert and he actually got it to rain somewhere that it hadn't in years.  use that little device on your scary "chemtrails".  whatever they are, they're pollution, so maybe we need to look for better ways to disperse them instead of continually drawing them to us with our fears.  focus.

but seriously, folks.  transformation.  all this stuff.  let's transform it into something... other.  "reality" demands it.  it's so sad to live in a world of uncertainties and fear.  so sad.  but you can be just as afraid as you need to.  can't help you with that...  but i'm not afraid because the alternative has already been lived and played out.  turn the page

 At the end he asks "if you think these trails are normal contrails then you'll have to explain how a hot jet engine can spray ice crystals directly out of the jet engine exhaust".  Well, it's like 50 below zero where jets cruise, watch this:

throwing boiling water in air at minus 9 degrees

Great points-I love your points starmonkey. Lightwins-what the heck? The guy seems to be covering nervously for a software glitch that SHOULD have erased the massive military dispersents! This is serious. See I believe the military is spraying. I just don't think it's being done every day nor from jetliners.

Hi Brian,

I haven't responded yet because I feel like I would just be repeating myself. And I truly don't feel strongly enough about it to try to convince you of anything; like I said, all that I know is what I've been seeing occasionally for the past few years. I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation until I happen to see them again on a weekend so I can take several pictures throughout the day and post them here.

To respond to the points you mentioned:

• - The Google images don't look like what I've seen, so to me they're not the same as the 'chemtrail' flight patterns or contrail disbursement
• - I live in rural Manitoba, where I do see a lot of commercial flights going to and from Winnipeg and across the country, but a) I know what those contrails look like, and they disperse quickly compared to the 'chemtrail' disbursements, which can linger and spread over hours and make the entire sky overcast b) there are not enough simultaneous flights in my neck of the woods to cause a grid pattern all at once, and c) when I have been outside for have and seen this going on, it appears as though there are two planes going at it for hours.
• - I could only speculate as to who might be doing this - it might be military, but i have no idea.
• - I agree that this does not happen every day. From what I can tell, it seems to happen in my area most often in the summer (but I've seen it in the winter too), and generally when the sky is mostly clear (and then afterward it is completely covered in a cloudy haze). I honestly have not cared enough to catalog every time I've seen it, and I work a day job indoors, so I suspect it happens more often than I've been noticing.

Finally, I agree with Starmonkey that ultimately, this isn't something that I want to be overly focused on. I want to use fear as an invitation for growth, to more fully incarnate into this body so I can stop hiding from myself and let my inner light shine. It doesn't feel right for me to be getting argumentative about this, because that doesn't align with who I am.

I care about all of you guys, and I fully support everyone's freedom of thought and expression. In a paradoxical way, I believe that everyone is right, and thus that everyone is also wrong. That's my truth - I desire to help people who are caught in patterns of suffering, but I do not want to ever force my particular view on someone, because I know that it is subject to attachment and delusion.

Duality is fascinating and hypnotizing, so much so that it is hard to even notice when we are caught in attachments. Perhaps I am attached to my personal observation; ultimately, what is a vision in a dream but a pointer to some higher truth?

So what do my personal observations of 'chem trails' mean to me, and what higher truth do they point to? To me, they represent plans and orchestrations outside of myself that I do not understand and cannot control, but nevertheless I am affected by. It represents my mistrust of traditional authority, and my frustration about the mass manipulation of society. I would say that the higher truth and the opportunity for transformation is to accept that there are things going on that I don't understand - to accept that lack of control is a part of this human existence. I have an opportunity to touch the hearts of those who might be orchestrating this and see that these human beings may believe that they are doing what is best for all, and perhaps they are acting out of fear. Perhaps some of the emotions and energy that I feel as I look at the sky are not even mine, and so by choosing not to shrink away, by sharing my love and my light with this space, I am softening their hearts as well.

Love and light, Trish

yes, we are all right and we are all wrong.  comes from being fractals of the bigger picture.  of course none of us can know anything for sure, but it's fun to speculate, non?

well, i DO know some things, and one of the thinks i know is that we're all making this up as we go along.  the maya?  the mass media, etc.?  they are doing a DAILY job of keeping us believing in this nonsense.  every day they have to bombard our senses with the necessary stereotypes and relative absurdities while jacking ourselves up for it all.  sick.

i also know we have WAY more power than most will own up to or accept.  and there is only one thing gonna fix this mess.  coming together.  since there are 7.25 billion of us and many against an empire of some sort or other, our strength will come in numbers of focused individuals.  not so much needy and afraid, as they are a liability.  but we can possibly help them with that.  not me.  we.

and all of these petty attempts to disempower us or keep us down...  they still rely on your complicity.  we can face all of that together and CHANGE it.  but words are not our weapons.  we need to awaken and activate our connection[s] to a higher perspective.  and love.  most are misguided or delusional, wanting to believe we're doing good works or making "progress" toward something.  what if part of that progress was finding out the hard way about how we DON'T want to be?  most lessons come through making mistakes, and i think we can all agree some mistakes have been made.  so, let's learn and move on and share our knowledge with as many as we can in our lives.  the helpful kind, not the disempowering kind.

and if something like chemtrails or seven-foot tall reptilians or your local priest having wandering hands threatens you, you have support.  you have help.  let's disperse with all of the nonsense and be about removing some obstacles.

but if people continue to draw lines of right/wrong, good/evil, like/dislike...  that's not bringing us together.  that's helping "them" with their work.  divide and conquer.  how about "gather and heal"?

that way we don't make arbitrary labels/decisions that place anyone in a separate box or label them inappropriately without knowing their whole story.  we ALL need healing and family and we ALL want the safety and security of home.  and EVERYONE in the world deserves it as much as any of us...

loving you all and proud that we are all maturing here a little in our relationships!  thanks for your understanding

While I agree that we should come together and heal, we must also stop denying reality.  Most of us don't want division, but that's the world we live in.  When life gives us lemons, we don't have to deny the bitterness to make lemonade.

The truth is a faction exists that wants to divide and conquer, control, and annihilate the rest of us.  You don't have to dig very deep, to find plenty of evidence that it's not nonsense; these aren't conspiracy "theories", they're facts.  It's a deep rabbit hole and one conspiracy leads to another.  But if you look carefully, it becomes apparent that it's not just a bunch of conspiracies, it's one huge one.

Without "them" interfering in our lives, I believe we would be living peacefully together, in harmony with nature.  But they've taken us down another path, with a sinister agenda leading to our demise and enslavement. Wishful thinking and happy thoughts might make us feel better momentarily, but I don't think it's going to do much in the way of resolving the world's problems.

Here's my wish.  I wish that every conspiracy denier would just take one issue they believe is not true, and research it in depth.  Read at least 15 (non-corporate media) sources on the subject; watch at least 5 videos about it; weigh all the evidence with an unbiased eye and learn something new that you didn't know before.

But maybe before that happens, we have to ask  ourselves why we came here.  Is the purpose of our physical existence to transcend it into a non-physical awareness of the self?    Is my personal comfort and happiness more important than anything else?  Or do each of us have an obligation to help solve the issues that affect the very survival of humanity and the planet as a whole?

Each of us brings unique gifts and perspectives into the mix, so each of us has value in our own way.  So it's okay to have different ideas and opinions.  As drops of water become the ocean, so we as fractals are individual expressions of the whole. 

Perhaps we'll never agree about these issues, but if we truly want to "come together" it starts with a single step towards each other.  Begin by walking a mile in the other person's shoes.  There's a phenonmena I call the "Empathy Gene."  I'm finding it increasingly rare to find people who show compassion for their fellow man or a lost animal, or even a starving child.  Some say it's been bred out of us.  One thing I do know is that empathy is what makes us human.  Without it, we're beasts.  So to my mind, for us to come together, we have to care more -- not just about what happens to ourselves, but about what is happening to everyone and everything. 

For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. - Matthew 25:35-40

a slave to love!  ;)

           http://youtu.be/VtoGY6zMXGM

Thank you Todd, that was beautiful. :-)

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At the Monday Demonstration in Dresden on May 12, 2014, a guy came forward during the open mike session and told the audience he participated in installing chemtrails devices on airplanes. Guess what happened when he went to the local representatives with proof in hand.

The "New Monday Demonstrations" (actually, "Mahnwachen für den Frieden") were started by Lars Mährholz in march 2014 as a grassroots movement for world peace and a fair monetary system. As of midst of May 2014, Monday Demonstrations are taking place in over 60 cities in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, and is still growing. After the mainstream media and various forces from left to right in the first place ridiculed, defamed, attacked or ignored the movement, now the media have started to report, in a less harsh way.
The term "Monday Demonstration" refers to the peaceful grassroots demonstrations in East Germany in 1989 in which finally hundreds of thousands citizens took part and which, amongst others, led to the fall of the wall on Nov 9, 1989.

Thanks for the post, John.  I heard a similar testimonial (somewhere on Youtube).  The man was an airplane mechanic who serviced the planes between flights.  One day, he noticed an exhaust line that was all but hidden underneath other pipes that ran along the belly of the plane.  When he questioned it, he was told to mind his own business if he wanted to keep his job.

I reckon there are plenty of people within the airline industry who know a lot more than they're saying.

righteous Todd

Thanks Todd,

That was a nice lift!

Wendy

It finally happened! I took my daughter out to the fair for the day, and saw many planes flying overhead with heavy, widely spreading contrail distribution for over three hours. I took pictures and videos when I could, to show how often it was happening, how widely they spread, and how they went in several different directions. I also found it interesting that after I got home and took a break for about an hour, the sky was clear after I went outside again.

I'll just post a few on this thread; if you want to see all of them, please go to this Dropbox link (sort by oldest upload date to newest for chronological order):

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9oit3rqgc4k7b5u/AADZvvDoc4vIvVRUiTvGFfvKa

2:03 p.m. - On the half-hour highway drive, I watched planes form heavy contrails, and they looked like this by the time I made it into town:

3:15 p.m. - I can count at least six distinct trails here, and the haze you see is from previous dispersed trails.

3:30 p.m. - I saw a plane flying and took a video. They were going across the sky very fast!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4vvx77edv3p5j3o/VIDEO0044.mp4

The video embed didn't seem to work - I'll just leave it as a link.

3:31 p.m. - I took a picture of the same con trail.

3:33 p.m. - See how it has dispersed after two minutes.

5:12 p.m. - Another one flew overhead just as we were about to head home. At least two more passed over on the drive home.

In this picture, you can see a gap near the top of the sign - I thought it was interesting:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qzy1fnkk404j9xb/IMAG0619.jpg

So, these pictures and videos illustrate what I envision when I normally think of 'chemtrails' - I have no idea who might be doing it and why, and if it is even an organized spraying of some kind, or if there is some other explanation (like the air force doing training today?).

It was hot today and there is a severe thunderstorm warning in effect in this area. My wild hunch is that these were efforts directly related to the potential oncoming storm, either to prevent it, change its expected behaviour, or make use of it (by seeding it with chemicals that will rain down?). 

Do you guys have any observations, thoughts, theories?

Cheers, Trish

 I am watching Kimberly Gamble (Thrive) talking about chemtrails and I have to say I tend to trust her and Foster's knowledge. I remain skeptical but not resistant to the subject and I need to read and hear about facts uncovered about it. Thanks all for engaging me constructively as I learn.

Brian

go to:    http://www.flightradar24.com/38.73,-94.99/4  for real time review of commercial flights flying over you. Zoom in with your mouse. If you were trying to see if the trails were coming from commerical flights or maybe undocumented military planes...???

I have to say, that's pretty cool.

One comment about 'chemtrails' after viewing the real time flight radar, we rarely see them over our home. But oh my gosh, so many planes over where I live you can't even see a hole in the airspace-you  can't even see the lower part of the state of Mich at all.  I wouldn't want to be an air traffic controller after viewing that and how amazing there aren't more accidents in the air than there are. Wow, is all I have to say Brian.

I see a lot of trails on clear days that widen and combine until by afternoon, sun is usually blocked thus lowering temperatures. I wonder if jet fuel has additives to do this. It would explain how a small number of people could have wide spread control-only the fuel sources would have to be in on it. Fossil fuels...hmmmmm

Why do this? Why cool hot days down? Global warming. Steven Greer says the fossil fuel industry has like $200? trillion in reserves they want to sell us yet. Keep things cool as long as possible while they make their money.
Greer claims UFO secrecy is now sourced by Fossil Fuel industries (free energy tech on UFO's would kill their $ dreams). Did you know most additives in gasoline got added when ultra-high mileage cabureturs started to really get noticed-to make them fail. They prevent normal vaporization of fuel that allows extremely high mileage. Remember Fuel injection? Squirting fuel in prevents people from developing better combustion techniques too. Brilliant!

I know many think Global Warming is a hoax and I have almost been won over to that side several times but I have to say my personal physical experience combined with weather statistics (and scientists) keeps me in the GW believer ranks for now.

I've seen photos of these chemtrail planes where the trails are not coming from the engines, but from other parts of the wing or even the tail, so I'd say the answer is "yes" to aerosal additives and "no" to the trails being caused by jet fuel.  To me, the preponderance of the evidence is irrefutable.

As far as Global Warming is concerned, I don't deny that the earth's climate is changing, in part by human activities.  What I don't except is putting 100% of the blame on the masses and then using this as an excuse to carbon-tax us or herd us into compact, restricted areas as mandated by Agenda 21.  (Meanwhile, free energy is suppressed and fracking and fossil fuel consumption continues unchecked.)

The earth's climate and solar activity is cyclical, so why doesn't the media talk about the sun's role in all of this?  What?  The sun might be warming the earth?  What a concept!

http://www.globalwarminglies.com/Sun.html

Do you think Global Warming will destroy the planet? Lets take a closer look at the facts.

"There are numerous studies that find a correlation [between solar variation and Earth climate]," Sami Solanki of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Lindau, Germany

"We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest." Stephen Schneider, advocate of the global warming theory in interview for Discover magazine, Oct 1989

Temperatures and Solar Cycles follow each other very closely. More importantly you will see that it is not exact. You will have times of higher sunspots and lower temperatures and you will also have the opposite. Why is this so important? Because weather is not based on one element. You could double the sunspots but if one major volcano erupted it would counter every sunspot for years. You could increase sunspots, co2, and have no volcanoes erupting but if the earth's orbit around the sun is at a further distance it could cancel out everything else.      

From 1645-1715 there were very few sunspots, that corresponds to the Little Ice Age. Lack of Solar activity is also the cause for the Ice Age.

Sunspots are currently reaching a 1,000 year high

Stronger solar storms could start as early as this year or as late as 2008 and should peak around 2012. The next solar cycle will be 30 to 50 percent stronger than the last cycle. Meaning, don't be surprised by higher temperatures and possible blackouts.

Earth's orbit is broken into different cycles greatly affecting our weather.

• Milankovitch Cycles - Over thousands of years, changes in Earth's orbit causes an increase or decrease in the amount of the Sun's energy that gets to the planet.
• Eccentricity - The shape of Earth's orbit around the Sun becomes slightly more and then less oval every 100,000 years.
• Precission - Earth wobbles on it axis as it spins, completing a full wobble every 23,000 years.
• Tilt - : The angle of the Earth's axis relative to the plane of its orbit changes about three degrees every 41,000 years

What does all this mean? It means Earth's rotation changes every year and unless your 100,000 years old and kept historical records we don't know exactly what to expect.

Over the next 10,000 years, northern hemisphere winters will become longer and its summers will become shorter.

Today, the northern hemisphere summer is 4.66 days longer than its associated winter and spring is 2.9 days longer than fall.

Fluctuations in the number of cosmic rays hitting the atmosphere directly alter the amount of clouds covering the planet.(This is still new to scientists and they are just starting to learn how important cosmic rays are)

Climate models do not include the cosmic ray effect.

Cosmic rays are high-speed sub-atomic particles, mostly nuclei and protons. The come from black holes and colliding galaxies.

Interstellar dust increasing and expected to increase by 3 times the amount by 2013. The potential effects are not well known, according to Landgraf and his colleagues at the Max-Planck-Institute. The increase is thought to be related to an 11-year cycle of sunspot activity.

The solar system is plowing toward the fringes of a galactic cloud known as the G-cloud. The time of the entry into the G-cloud is unknown, but is expected to occur any time in the next 10,000 years.

Every year in December a helium-rich breeze from the stars hits Earth for a few weeks. It cannot penetrate to the surface and has little if any affect on the Earth but it does prove that we are constantly being hit by gases, protons and random cosmic rays from else where in the Universe.

I dunno. Seems like either side I listen to has holes in it