Provocative Interview With Alleged Ruling Bloodline Priest Opened My Eyes

The fascinating, provocative interview below is one of two essays that most have helped me to understand the big picture of what is going on in our world and universe. Profound material I recommend to all who like to ask the big questions about life and existence.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/secret_societies/hidden_hand_bloodlines

Ruling bloodline priest interview

tscout's picture

Thanks for this one Fred,,I remember the Hidden Hand interview here a few years ago, wasn't sure if this was the same one or not. Yesterday I read the whole post by the Judge that Noa put up, it was great to read this one today, seeing things from the bigger picture always helps to not take things so personally... Thanks again

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Thanks Fred! This feels very right to me. I liked this advice below - it is frustrating to find the right way to open people up to the truth for me and nice to know that I only need more patience to give them the free will to find the truth on their own.

The most important thing is not to force things and not to be so impassioned in the delivery of your message that you put people off the content of the message itself. There is a balance that needs to be found between your urgency to awaken others and your compassion for the lack of understanding in their condition. Always adhere to the law of free will and never force your message.

Be as a light shining in the darkness. Do not burn others with your light, but rather allow them to be drawn to your light. And be of service to those who come to you willingly. In other words, do not become evangelical with your message, but rather be the enigmatic and loving "wise old sage", to whom others are drawn to because of the quality of vibration, rather than the volume of rhetoric.

fredburks's picture

Yes, Wendy. I find that the sense of urgency turns most people off. When I present things as an "irresistable invitation," I find I have much better success in communicating and also hearing what the person I'm with says. Take care.

ChrisBowers's picture

Fred, is this the same Above Top Secret Hidden Hand Q&A that I posted in circa 2009? If so, all links to it from associated websites presently take one to a "Server Not Found" page. It's been removed. I'm going to search my files for the Hidden Hand PDF and will post it here if I can find it...
Oops, just realized I can't paste a PDF copy of the doc... I love seeing the Hidden Hand Q&A come up again - gets into The Law of One stuff again....

Here is a youtube link to the Q&A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idvuOliAyJU

http://galacticconnection.com/dialogue-hidden-hand-self-proclaimed-illum...

Here's a similar insider doc from 2005 I think
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/revelations_elitefamilyin...
and here is some Ra-Law of One related stuff
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/sep2/ra.htm

tscout's picture

I was wondering that as well. It seems pretty much the same,,but I didn't read the full 60 page report yet. I think it's interesting to see all the comments about "the harvest" not necessarily being about "end times",,,but ,,if this is all a game,,and we are at the end of a cycle of "man", then let's talk about it. He does make reference to end times in the full interview, and flat out says,,yes,,we are in the end times,,so it seems too me that is where the big harvest comes in,,,the mass exodus of souls from the planet at one time. Of course there is more than one scenario, I just brought it up because, according to him, and many others, we humans are known for "looking the other way" haha! I think it could be a healthy conversation.....

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The Harvest (from the horse's mouth so to speak)
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=Harvest

excerpt (keep in mind these sessions with Ra are from circa 1981, 35 years ago):

Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to progression of the cycle at this time?

Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.

6.17 Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?

Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately three oh, thirty [30], of your years.

6.18 Questioner: After this thirty-year period I am assuming we will be a fourth-dimension or fourth-density planet. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is so.

6.19 Questioner: [Is it] possible to estimate what percentage of [the] present population will inhabit the fourth-density planet?

Ra: The harvesting is not yet, thus, estimation is meaningless.

9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

10.9 Questioner: When a graduation occurs [and an] entity or entities move [at] the end of a cycle from one planet to another, by what means do they go from one planet to the other?

Ra: I am Ra. In the scheme of the Creator, the first step of the mind/body/spirit totality/beingness is to place its mind/body/spirit complex distortion in the proper place of love/light. This is done to ensure proper healing of the complex and eventual attunement with the totality/beingness complex. This takes a very variable length of your time/space. After this is accomplished the experience of the cycle is dissolved and filtered until only the distillation of distortions in its pure form remains. At this time, the harvested mind/body/spirit totality/beingness evaluates the density needs of its beingness and chooses the more appropriate new environment for either a repetition of the cycle or a moving forward into the next cycle. This is the manner of the harvesting, guarded and watched over by many.

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Reading what Ra had to say in that Harvest-related session (linked in post above) really helps make sense of the uber-polarized stuff going on these days, the ongoing struggle of 3rd Density dragging it's feet as 4th Density beckons, as this excerpt aludes to so well:

Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is a vibrational spectrum. Your time/space continuum has spiraled your planetary sphere and your, what we would call galaxy, what you call star, into this vibration. This will cause the planetary sphere itself to electromagnetically realign its vortices of reception of the instreaming of cosmic forces expressing themselves as vibrational webs so that the Earth will thus be fourth-density magnetized, as you might call it.

This is going to occur with some inconvenience, as we have said before, due to the energies of the thought-forms of your peoples which disturb the orderly constructs of energy patterns within your Earth spirals of energy which increases entropy and unusable heat. This will cause your planetary sphere to have some ruptures in its outer garment while making itself appropriately magnetized for fourth density. This is the planetary adjustment.

You will find a sharp increase in the number of people, as you call mind/body/spirit complexes, whose vibrational potentials include the potential for fourth-vibrational distortions. Thus, there will seem to be, shall we say, a new breed. These are those incarnating for fourth-density work.

There will also be a sharp increase in the short run of negatively oriented or polarized mind/body/spirit complexes and social complexes, due to the polarizing conditions of the sharp delineation between fourth-density characteristics and third-density self-service orientation.

and this:

Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

40.9 Questioner: Has the vibration of the basic, of the photon, of all our particles increased in frequency already?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. It is this influence which has begun to cause thoughts to become things. As an example you may observe the thoughts of anger becoming those cells of the physical bodily complex going out of control to become what you call the cancer.

40.10 Questioner: What, assuming that we are, our vibration— I am assuming this vibration started increasing about between twenty and thirty years ago. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The first harbingers of this were approximately forty-five of your years ago, the energies vibrating more intensely through the forty-year period preceding the final movement of vibratory matter, shall we say, through the quantum leap, as you would call it.

40.11 Questioner: Starting then, forty-five years ago, and taking the entire increase in vibration that we will experience in this density change, approximately what percentage of the way through this increase of vibration are we right now?

Ra: I am Ra. The vibratory nature of your environment is true color, green. This is at this time heavily over-woven with the orange ray of planetary consciousness. However, the nature of quanta is such that the movement over the boundary is that of discrete placement of vibratory level.

40.15 Questioner: Thank you. A very important concept. Does the fact that basic vibration that we experience now is green true color, or fourth density, account for the fact that there are many mental effects upon material objects that are now observable for the first time in a mass way like the bending of metal by mind?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the final query in total of this working. This is not only correct but we suggest you take this concept further and understand the great number of entities with the so-called mental diseases being due to the effect of this green-ray true color upon the mental configurations of those unready mentally to face the self for the first time.

Are there any brief queries before we close?

40.16 Questioner: Just two. With respect to what you just said, would then people incarnating here by seniority of vibration who incarnate for the service-to-self path be ones who would have extreme difficulty mentally with this green-ray vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. It is rather the numbers who have distracted themselves and failed to prepare for this transition yet who are somewhat susceptible to its influence who may be affected.

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Intriguing global warming/climate change angle:

Questioner: Thank you. In trying to understand the energies, creative energies, it has occurred to me that I really do not understand why unusable heat is generated as our Earth moves from third into fourth density. I know it has to do with disharmony between the vibrations of third and fourth density but why this would show up as a physical heating within the Earth is beyond me. Can you enlighten me on that?

Ra: I am Ra. The concepts are somewhat difficult to penetrate in your language. However, we shall attempt to speak to the subject. If an entity is not in harmony with its circumstances it feels a burning within. The temperature of the physical vehicle does not yet rise, only the heat of the temper or the tears, as we may describe this disharmony. However, if an entity persists for a long period of your space/time in feeling this emotive heat and disharmony, the entire body complex will begin to resonate to this disharmony, and the disharmony will then show up as the cancer or other degenerative distortions from what you call health.

When an entire planetary system of peoples and cultures repeatedly experiences disharmony on a great scale the earth under the feet of these entities shall begin to resonate with this disharmony. Due to the nature of the physical vehicle, disharmony shows up as a blockage of growth or an uncontrolled growth since the primary function of a mind/body/spirit complex’s bodily complex is growth and maintenance. In the case of your planet the purpose of the planet is the maintenance of orbit and the proper location or orientation with regards to other cosmic influences. In order to have this occurring properly the interior of your sphere is hot in your physical terms. Thus instead of uncontrolled growth you begin to experience uncontrolled heat and its expansive consequences.

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On a very positive note, Ra reminds the reader that:

We may note at this point while you ponder the possibility/probability vortices that although you have many, many items which cause distress and thus offer seeking and service opportunities, there is always one container in that store (to use the grocery store items analogy again) of peace, love, light, and joy.

This vortex may be very small, but to turn one’s back upon it is to forget the infinite possibilities
of the present moment. Could your planet polarize towards harmony in one fine, strong moment
of inspiration?

Yes, my friends. It is not probable; but it is ever (and always) possible.

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Understanding time/space (post/pre-incarnative experience & most likely dreamstate in which there is no movement of physical matter, but free to move about, back and forth in time/memory) vs. space/time (movement in and manipulation of the physical world, but bound to present time - no physical access to past/future time)

Questioner: As an entity goes through the death process in third density and finds itself in time/space,
it finds itself in a different set of circumstances. Would you please describe the properties or
circumstances of time/space and then the process of healing of incarnative experiences
that some entities encounter?

Ra: I am Ra. Although this query is difficult to answer adequately due to the limitations of
your space/time sound vibration complexes, we shall respond to the best of our ability.

The hallmark of time/space is the inequity between time and space. In your space/time the spatial orientation of material causes a tangible framework for illusion. In time/space the inequity is upon the shoulders of that property known to you as time. This property renders entities and experiences intangible in a relative sense. In your framework each particle or core vibration moves at a velocity which approaches what you call the speed of light from the direction of supraluminal velocities.

Thus the time/space or metaphysical experience is that which is very finely tuned and, although an analog of space/time, lacking in its tangible characteristics. In these metaphysical planes there is a great deal of what you call time which is used to review and re-review the biases and learn/teachings of a prior, as you would call it, space/time incarnation.

The extreme fluidity of these regions makes it possible for much to be penetrated which must needs be absorbed before the process of healing of an entity may be accomplished. Each entity is located in a somewhat immobile state much as you are located in space/time in a somewhat immobile state in time. In this immobile space the entity has been placed by the form-maker and higher self so that it may be in the proper configuration for learn/teaching that which it has received in the space/time incarnation.

Depending upon this time/space locus there will be certain helpers which assist in this healing process. The process involves seeing in full the experience, seeing it against the backdrop of the mind/body/spirit complex total experience, forgiving the self for all missteps as regards the missed guideposts during the incarnation and, finally, the careful assessment of the next necessities for learning. This is done entirely by the higher self until an entity has become conscious in space/time of the process and means of spiritual evolution at which time the entity will consciously take part in all decisions.

Questioner: Is the process in positive time/space identical with the process in negative time/space
for this healing?

Ra: I am Ra. The process in space/time of the forgiveness and acceptance is much like that in time/space in that the qualities of the process are analogous. However, while in space/time it is not possible to determine the course of events beyond the incarnation but only to correct present imbalances. In time/space, upon the other hand, it is not possible to correct any unbalanced actions but rather to perceive the imbalances and thusly forgive the self for that which is.

The decisions then are made to set up the possibility/probabilities of correcting these imbalances in what you call future space/time experiences. The advantage of time/space is that of the fluidity of the grand overview. The advantage of space/time is that, working in darkness with a tiny candle, one may correct imbalances.

Questioner: If an entity has chosen the negative polarization are the processes of healing
and review similar for the negative path?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

83.7 Questioner: One thing I don’t understand is why, if there was no veil, that the review of incarnation after the incarnation would help the process since it seems to me that the entity should already be aware of what was happening. Possibly this has to do with the nature of space/time and time/space. Could you clear that up, please?

Ra: I am Ra. It is true that the nature of time/space is such that a lifetime may be seen whole as a book or record, the pages studied, riffled through, and re-read. However, the value of review is that of the testing as opposed to the studying. At the testing, when the test is true, the distillations of all study are made clear.

During the process of study, which you may call the incarnation, regardless of an entity’s awareness of the process taking place, the material is diffused and over-attention is almost inevitably placed upon detail.

The testing upon the cessation of the incarnative state is not that testing which involves the correct memorization of many details. This testing is, rather, the observing of self by self, often with aid as we have said. In this observation one sees the sum of all the detailed study; that being an attitude or complex of attitudes which bias the consciousness of the mind/body/spirit.

Questioner: I see. Before the veil, can you describe any other physical difference that we haven’t talked about yet with respect to the sexual energy transfers or relationships or anything prior to veiling?

Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps the most critical difference of the veiling, before and after, was that before the mind, body, and spirit were veiled, entities were aware that each energy transfer and, indeed, very nearly all that proceeds from any intercourse, social or sexual, between two entities has its character and substance in time/space rather than space/time. The energies transferred during the sexual activity are not, properly speaking, of space/time. There is a great component of what you may call metaphysical energy transferred. Indeed, the body complex as a whole is greatly misunderstood due to the post-veiling assumption that the physical manifestation called the body is subject only to physical stimuli. This is emphatically not so.

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Yes, this is the same material that you mentioned Chris. I'm actually en route to Findhorn as I type this, waiting for the next leg of our flight in the airport in Halifax, Nova Scotia, so I don't have much time to write now. And yes, I find very interesting similarities between the Ra and the Hidden Hand material, and even a few interesting similarities with the WingMakers material. Cool stuff!!!

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Amen to that! Love seeing this stuff again at such a time we're in... Have a safe and wonderful time in Findhorn and Damanhur...

Oh, and does anyone remember the Thiaoouba Prophecy? A story about one man's journey to the stars, to an advanced civilization living in complete harmony and enduring wisdom. I'm posting because it fits here in spirit, and also within the context of the Damanhur forum post. Just go to linked page and open PDF with Acrobat and download to your library. Enjoy!
http://bioresonant.com/dl/dl.htm?name=tp-typeset.pdf

and 2 vids, one with the author
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L15Q0HYSGtI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dspiG64elg

esrw02's picture

They are all intertwined wow thats awesome

tscout's picture

I loved the Thiaoouba Prophecy,,,yeah,, that was a trip

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Here's the page I have been looking for. All other links to the illuminati-news website page from a host of other sources have been disconnected for whatever reason.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

and by the way, critical thinking requires that we consider the very real possibility that "Hidden Hand" is merely someone like you or me that is well read in the Law of One, Illuminati stuff, 13 bloodlines, history in general, so many of the things all of us here have sunk our proverbial teeth into.

and then would be in a position to make up a story that fit well into the understanding of many like us who believe much of this already to one degree or another. and then would be prepared to tell this story, answer questions fluently. I have to consider the very real possibility of this being a fanciful tall tale. When you read the Law of One sessions, there are obvious parallels to many of the things HH is saying which simultaneously lends credibility to the story and makes one a little suspicious...

For whatever reason, I personally get more from the actual Law of One sessions than I do from this very intriguing HH interview - feels more like original source material. But that means absolutely nothing - too subjective and too personal...

ATS: "OP, what proof do you have that "ruling elite families" exist and that your a member of one? Its something that I think you thought was not falsifiable, which is why you chose that identity for the story your weaving - however, I think there may indeed be a way you can prove it."

HH: "I have no need to prove anything to you. I am merely doing my duty as directed to me. Believe, or do not believe, we are divinely indifferent. I am obliged to complete this task here. The end result is of no consequence to me. I will have discharged my duty, in handing down certain information that must be released at this time. There is no stipulation as to where I do so, only that I do. I chose Above Top Secret, as the general level of intelligence, comprehension and reasoning is reckoned to be higher than in many such forums."

Example above shows how Hidden Hand's answer works well both for a true and false scenario...

Oh, and take note that hidden hand (right after quote above) lists a number of predictions that have not come true in the timeline alleged. always a bad idea to go on record with specific predictions IMO. I would have thought someone in HH's position would already understand this well, but it's as if HH "took the bait" the interviewer cast out there.

When you get to the end of the first session you will see, "Click here to read the follow-up discussions by members of the "Above Top Secret Forum" Click the blue "read" and see what others had to say in 2008, in response to the HH Q&A.

No matter what conclusion you come to concerning the HH Q&A, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater - the Law of One sessions are still worth reading IMHO... (too legit to quit)

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ATS: "Is 2012 harvest time? When you speak of the harvest, it has echoes of Chaos Gnosticism in the sense that we are divine souls trapped in the physical world, continuously re-incarnated into flesh until the time that we reach such a level of spiritual 'gnosis' that we are able to avoid being re-incarnated in our next cycle. Is this the foundation of your belief?"

HH: "Another excellent (and very insightful) question. Thank you."

"The higher the quality of the question, the more depth I can give to my answer. It all has to do with the Laws of Confusion and Free Will."

"Yes, the noonday Winter Solstice Sun of December 21st, 2012 is the time when the Lord of The Harvest shall return. You might know him as "Nibiru"."

Oops, HH got that wrong. Either that or we all missed da boat this time round....

One thing's for sure - HH, whoever he she it is, is a genius at memorizing data for effortless recall!

After a host of specific predictions in earlier exchanges HH says this:

"Another difficult issue with channeling, is that you can start off recieving a Positive entity, and if you are not very perceptive in your discerment and careful in your protection when identifying an incoming channel, you can get a Negative one that pretends to be positive, but gradually slips in more and more misinformation, having gained your trust. The ones that give you precise dates and times are nearly always ones to avoid. Positive entities will not give a date and time. Negative ones will do, so they can set you up for a fall. Once you're tricked into predicting dates and times, and they don't happen, they've succeeded in putting out the Light of your message, as no one will see any credibility in you."

Still, I cherish so much of what HH says, but there are seemingly blatantly obvious discrepancies and contradictions...

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Agreed! So much of it resonates too well to be true. I think anyone who has had any type of NDE, psychotropic experience, etc. would agree that this life is an illusion, or that we live under a veil of some type,,,but that leaves us open to just about any story that someone clever enough feeds us. And the predictions are always a turn off. If it is true that there are many timelines, or possible outcomes that manifest endlessly,,,in the present, then why would anyone who truly knows how things work stick their neck out and make predictions? In HH's case, he says that Damascus and San Francisco would be uninhabitable by 2010. After all the crap that was flying up until 2012, it's hard to believe anything. People believed all the negative interpetations about the Mayan calendar, but didn't listen to the people telling the truth about it,,it wasn't dramatic enough for them,ha! Maybe HH is really doing his job, as the "negative" interpetation seems so much more popular!
He compliments the Law of one teachings, but makes sure to add that he is too busy to read them all, as to discount the possibility that he siphoned critical points from them in piecing together his version. But even if he did make parts of it up, to "put us in our place",so to speak,,,the message of Finding your true nature, serving others, and loving every minute of your life is not a bad one, it is a most common message,and a beautiful one. That is what I would keep from this interview, and I will never be sure about the rest until the veil is lifted.
I also found his story lacking in detail about why he and his group are here. He says that our world was so perfect that we couldn't evolve. So they threw in the polarity to show us what we are not. Now we are striving for that perfect world. Maybe it's true, but if so, this is one big circle we've been skirting for a lonnnnng time! Of course that is from someone who lives beneath the veil!! All the horrors we have perpetrated upon ourselves seem unthinkable, just to remember who we are, but once again, that is from someone who lives beneath the veil. Go figure!! I guess that, if Earth does take that step dimensionally, at least a piece of the veil would be lifted, and we might know more before we pass..
Two nights ago, I stepped outside to see the stars, and there was a ufo, directly in front of me, not very high up. It was like they saw me come out of the door, and knew I saw them immediately.Within seconds, there was a flash, no sound, and it shot off into the east, leaving a trace of light for a few seconds, then reappeared farther away,,,farther out in the ,night sky, and sat there, pulsating like a supernova for another 10 seconds or so. Then it flashed again, and shot off on exactly the same angle,,directly away from me. It was so quiet here, I imagined hearing the displacement of air as it shot away..... That experience brought me back to my kind of twisted belief system. I don't believe in anything,,I believe everything. If I agree that one thing is the truth,like a religion, or HH's story, I am closing myself to infinite possibilities. It is a painful choice ,,in a way, because most people seek out others that go along with their beliefs, to reinforce their idea of the world, to help them feel secure. If I could weed out the trillions of bits of information that have been embedded in my brain subconsciously,,maybe I could get close to the truth, but I feel a little overwhelmed by it all right now, and don't seem to have motivation to take any one direction. Sorry to add this here, it just popped up while thinking about all we share here....L,,,,T

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This idea of a "negative harvest" has never sat well with me. It smacks of human cattle and culling us for our own good, which sounds terribly cruel and unjust... like the old testament stories. Plus it dismisses the atrocious behavior of the puppets that be. To me, Hidden Hand doesn't sound very spiritually-evolved. Then again, I found the Law of One stuff too difficult to follow. Maybe it's just me.

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How cool about your UFO sighting, Todd! That's awesome!!!

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I loved the UFO story Todd!!!!!!!!!!! What an amazing thing to witness. Many people have this immediate sense of the UFO's awareness of their presence. I read this woman's account of her, her neighbors and family marveling one night at a huge UFO close overhead in the Hudson Valley in NY. Then the craft started to fly off and she pleaded out loud "Oh don't go-Please don't go!!" and the craft stopped and came back. My sister's a shamanic practitioner and she believes UFO's are from the middle world and just popping in for a visit. I asked her if they were benevolent and she said they can have as complicated or good or bad an agenda as anybody you know. Some don't give a hoot about you-some do. Some are good-some not. I guess I still hang on to my wish they are space people and we might make contact and learn the secrets of existence with them. I'm always looking for an easy way...

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There is so much amazing material available to us all now! We are very blessed!!!

Technologically advanced does not equal spiritual evolved. My rule, after several encounters, is this-- if they are in a ship, they are not allies but opportunist. They are seeking opportunity for themselves-- resources usually. So, if they "help" us it is for their own benefit in acquiring resources. They resources are Energy, Food, Water, Genetics.

I have always found HH to be very suspect I take everything under advisement and believe very little. If it is not LOVE and KNOWLEDGE then I have no use for it as it is a dead ended path.

Law of One has value. It is a guidepost as we grope through the fog and stumble on and off the path.

I have been studying the New Message. It has much value--- and Truth. It is another instance of a guidepost.

300-700 years sounds optimistic at best Unfortunately, there are no guarantees there will be much left to shift to the 4D-5D if these current trends continue.

On multiple fronts, many dystopian outcomes are in simultaneous play. Will we Rise to the occasion--- will Humankind shift and embrace its Greatness? These questions will all lead to potentialities as the Future is always in Flux and even the Beings do not truly Know--- they can only calculate probabilities.

I bless us all with Love

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