Wild conspiracy theories- What do you all think of Don Nicoloff's work?

I just started to read the Bush/Nazi thing and I'm going-holy cow- is this maybe possible? Here's an example of a section of information inside this blockbuster: Berman recounted how Skorzeny was found “not guilty” at the Nuremburg trials, and then ushered into the CIA. “Some 50,000+ S.S. Nazi war criminals, not just rocket scientists, were brought to America after the war.”"

 So huge claims are made like "50,000 SS and Nazi war criminals..." The thing is, I don't know if this information can be falsified or not.  I did find the claim of GHW Bush helping found the CIA to be nonsense. Also, I happened to do a search on Bush and JFK's assassination: there are an amazing number of stories out there about all these incredible connections and endless variations of coherent and plausible sounding conspiracies and coverups with detail and precision and names, dates, and so I have to conclude they are all utter bullsh_t because they can't all be true!
The Internet is FLOODED with nonsense. As a TV character said today "The Internet is like a bathroom wall where anybody can write anything."
 I'm concerned that so much false information covers up real evidence in an impenetrable wall of crap. People must throw up their hands in horror at "those conspiracy nuts"!

Brian

I have had a copy of the Skorzeny deathbed confession for some time. I have found that it corroberates other Bush family conspiracy stories I have run across to a degree. As Brian said, there are as many different stories out there as there are those to create them. Me feeling is that at least a big part of that Skorzeny story is accurate. The problem is that there are so many stories out there for the very purpose to misdirect out attention away from what is the real story.  The facts that the verifyable history of the Bush clan is so unconfirmable is a clue that there were strange things going on at the time, ie, dates that are one thing one time another at a different time. The same with locations . The various census record show different locations for the families and different numbers in the family, nothing is constant.  So I won't say any more than Nicoloff will, that this is true.

As for the Obama/Rockefeller story, that is the first time I have seen that one.  I want to dig into Nicoloff's site and read deeper into that one. A very fascinating conspiracy story for sure. I cannot fathom what the truth about Obama is but there is obviously some hidden agendas we are not aware of, or...there is an awfully artful design of character assasination being created by the neocons to completely destroy him.  When it comes right down to it, I think that it is ultimately a battle between the Rockefellers and the Rothchilds and right now Obama's stance favors the Rockefellers more than the Rothchilds and they then are doing what they can to destroy him.  And as for Obama's purple tinted lips, I always just thought that he probably had an RH factor problem when he was an infant which would  cause the very symptom observed. 

Brian, your conclusion about all being utter bullshit because not all can be true, not even you really believe that do you?  I have a feeling you get frustrated with this stuff like I do, like many who have journeyed this far down the rabbit hole do.

Two things come to mind concerning this ongoing dilemma about all these conspiracy related tales.  The "don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" cliche, and the hostile lawyer method of cooperation, sending the requested authentic document in a ten foot high stack of bogus bullshit and disinformation.

This has had me thinking a lot the past year or so about what to do.  Do I continue to chase the perpetual carrot?  Do I continue to stay informed about all the latest conspiracy related material?  Do I bury my head back in the comfortable warm sand from whence my happily delusional head came?

I have played the frustrating losing game of trying to inform people about things they do not want to hear, are not ready to integrate into their world view.  And the very frustrating game of trying to parse the real from the myriad of sensationalism so prevalent in this arena of conspiracy related issues.

I really don't have anything definite to say, other than I intimately feel and share the pain and frustration of anyone who has felt like they have had enough of this nonsense, and yet strongly suspect that some of it is very true.  I highly suspect we look like predictable 5 year olds to the "them" we would love to expose to the world.

One thing is definitely for sure.  The truth is somewhere in between the delusional romantic notions of the hot dogs and apple pie american patriot and the pissed off and very frustrated down the rabbit hole conspiracy theorist.  Here's a theory!  "They" conspire to keep us divided and frustrated with all of the polarized sensationalism that "lies" between the two aforementioned polarizations.

If I had to choose one major conspiracy it would be that one, the one that best suits the fundamental art of war ideal of divide and conquer.  It would be over almost instantly for the ruling class elite if we ever see through that red state blue state idiotic and oh so trivial polarity ruse...

Bread and Circuses.  Keep them fed, entertained and distracted.  Make the dumb unassuming masses feel like they are in "the know" when they are sorely and pathetically anything but.  Stroke those egos while keeping them 100 chess moves behind.  Make them think they are free while they are anything but...  You know the drill.  How all of that is executed is really not that important.  Nor is proving all the conspiratorial details.  What matters in the end is that we wake up to the truth that we are bred to be slaves in a system designed to serve the few at the expense of the vast many.  World history makes this obvious over and over and over again...

So what now?  The overall ruse and main objective of these power brokers is obvious.  So what now in light of that???  It is the question I am still working on....

My intuitive inclination has me thinking it may have to do with constructively & consciously ignoring "them".  This may at first sound like head-back-in-warm-sand rationalization, but the pure practice would be anything but.  It would entail a fundamental and practical rejection of the current system.  An unplugging from the grid.  No more paying taxes.  Re-learning how to feed ourselves instead of depending on "just in time" stocking of grocery store shelves.  Re-awakening and sharpening personal ingenuity and skill sets/gifts, and then building communities around it.

The sad truth is that we all are "their" willing subjects while we willingly reside in the current controlled societal construct.  It's no wonder they feel as confident as they do.  We reinforce that growing confidence every day with our lives.  The day we all realize that it is impossible to be a victim, that we are inherently and eternally and infinitely soveriegn and divine, that is the day they are most fearful of, the day they work tirelessly to avoid with all their offerings of distractions that we collectively take to far too quickly and easily....

conspiracy theories have at least some ring of truth to them. The problem for me is the vast number of different theories. One set of researchers traces it all back to ancient times and blames it on the Jews. Another group blames it on the Vatican and Jesuits. Others blame it on the Rothschilds and other bankers and so on. There is one constant and that is the fact that somone wants to rule the world and enslave us. So who is at the top? Surely if all these different factions were working independently, they would have clashed and ruined each others plans by now. There has to be a very small group at the top that is orchestrating and manipulating the whole game while remaining hidden by the compartmentalization of the whole thing. They aren't worried about us becoming aware of a general idea of a conspiracy because if one group gets exposed, there are plenty of others who will continue the work. Why can't all these channelers/beings just tell us who to take down instead of insisting that the dark side will lose, but without offering any specifics as to who the dark ones are? Sometimes I think it would be so much easier to stick my head back in the sand and return to the nice grassy area around the opening of the rabbit hole.

Hi All,

I'm pretty much in agreement with Chris about this.  I couldn't read much of the Bush article without the nagging feeling that I ought to be doing something else.  But just glancing at a few sentences and the photos, several improbabilities and impossibilities glowed red.  First, someone's deathbed confession doesn't mean anything.  We assume because a person is about to meet his/her maker, truth will come out of their mouth.  But if that dying person is a materialist and a Nazi to boot, why wouldn't he lie, as a last cynical joke on the inferior fools whose minds must be disabled at all costs.  About George H.W. Bush being German-born George H. Scherf... well, the first thing that occurred to me was his voice.  We've all heard GHW talk.  Anyone detect even the slightest German accent?  No.  Yankee twang.  A Bush-Nazi connection?  Probably.  There's enough evidence to support that claim.   But Scherf = Bush?   Further: In the photo, Scherf ("Bush") is in a German navy uniform, we're told.  But Bush wore an American naval pilot's uniform in WWII, when he infamously bailed out of his plane -- unnecessarily, it is said -- leaving his crew members to plunge to their deaths.  (The pro-Bush factions contests this account.)   He is/was a master of dirty tricks, but I don't think he was capable of bi-locating himself across an ocean.  And the other article about Obama and Rockefeller: I had only time and inclination to glance at a few of the photos.  I did not recognize even one of the several anomalies the author claims is in the photos. 

In my life I've been as prone as anyone to gullibility.  I'd be embarrassed to tell you some of the things I believed.  But I think I've become less gullible in recent years.  Time will tell. 

At this moment I am moved to poetry: 

Oh Sweet Bird of Critical Thinking,

come and perch on the branches of our central nervous systems --

particulary in the overgrown garden of our cerebral cortexes --

and chirp away.  Go, Bird!

I know, I won't win any poetry prizes.  Just couldn't resist a little droll humor under the circumstances.

Bob-you're freaking hilarious man.

My reason for wanting to know about the Bush clan is simple: Is there an Elite running "the show" and are they standing in the way of saving our planet and ourselves from ecological collapse? Trust me-I'm very serious about wanting to know. I want to know if there are mines laid in the road that we need to put energy into removing or not. Doesn't it effect our tactics and strategy for reaching the goal?

I sincerely worry now that the US could come apart because I believe the planet really is falling into ecological collapse and we have almost no time left to save ourselves and our brother species. If weather/climate becomes too extreme we may lose our ability to control our destiny and we could lose it all. Our children or their children could be exposed to deadly threats and no hope for the future. I don't want to do that to them.

If we get free energy devices in time we can do it. Some say we can do it with solar and wind and conservation. I want to know: Is there an Elite hiding free energy devices in black projects or not? Has anyone here decided for themselves this is the reality?

I have wholeheartedly decided that there is some form of breakaway elite that are already using free energy in underground facilities and antigravity technology, but what does that sound like to the normal status quo joe on the street going with the manufactured flow?

I dunno bro, I just dunno....

I guess I find some solice and consolation in the feeling that I am not so stuck in the matrix I so proudly defended in ignorance just a short few years ago.  I truly believe we will collectively, in some form, find our way through this and evolve as this humanoid more complex conscious lifeform, but am I suffering from wishful thinking that is part of the animal/mammal/reptile defense mechanism designed to help a species survive?  I just dunno....

Another comforting thing just hit me.  The late Bill Hicks, one of my all time favorite standup comedians, would end his sets with something from his core experience from his acid and mushroom taking days.  And that is that we are One.  He would put it in the context analogy of "its just a ride" to get people to stop taking themselves (and everything else in the process) so seriously (verbal chill pill).  What he was getting at is that all of this is so much bigger than our personal world views and concepts of ourselves.

There is something very comforting in the notion of taking a breather sometimes, sit back, and just enjoy the ride.  Just to be part of something this big and amazing, to contemplate the thought and let what is be what it is without thinking we have to change anything, at least for one liberating moment.

In the end we all are here for the experience, as conscious self referencing extensions of One Infinite Creator/Creation.  Sometimes we get stuck in the details that will never be as essential as remembering and re-cognizing who, what and where we actually are, that essential part of us that is inviolate and Sacred.

It makes me think a little outside the box about the line, "the devil's in the details", LOL

Here's Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T0DJaX8FEI&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUiwTubYu0

and Bill on (the subject of) mushrooms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW31ruQG1Xk&feature=related

I hope you're wrong Chris. Thanks for the brilliant reminders about taking it easy! I needed that. PLJ-there's nothing to apologize for because we look at the stuff to see if it's true and that put's us ahead of the curve. You know what they say: "No pain, no brain"...

Peace all

I have come to a realization thanks to Chris' words about just sitting back and enjoying the ride. Maybe we make this all too complicated. Maybe just enjoying the ride but with this awareness in place is all we need to do. Each of us with the awareness of the PTB and expanding consciousness is contributing that awareness to the mass consciousness automatically without any special effort and that is enough of a contribution. After all, not all of us can be the breakthrough leaders or scientists or inventors.

I like this from Kevin: "Each of us with the awareness of the PTB and expanding consciousness is contributing that awareness to the mass consciousness automatically without any special effort and that is enough of a contribution."

Kevin that's a great point man. I was surprised the other day at my dad's clear awareness of police brutality in the US. I didn't expect this at all and wondered why he's changed so many of his formerly status quo ideas and concepts. I always heard that guys got more rigid and intolerant with age-not less. I am so grateful for him. Gotta love the guy.

And Brian, as to your question, "I want to know: Is there an Elite hiding free energy devices in black projects or not? Has anyone here decided for themselves this is the reality?" I dug this one up from the old Transformation Course material:

US Air Force, NRO (National Reconnaissance Office), Master Sergeant Dan Morris

Eisenhower wanted somebody to be in charge. The CIA was working primarily for itself. Most of the military intelligence directors were working for themselves….So, it was organized, but the name of the NRO was kept secret for years….The National Security Agency – the killers work in that. Secretary of Defense Forestall was the first powerful person that was eliminated because he was going to release information [on UFOs] – and nobody has ever paid for that crime….Who was stationed at Roswell? The only nuclear bomb squadron in the world. We focused several powerful radars on the UFOs, and it caused two of them to crash. One of them had two aliens on it. One of them was wounded or hurt, the other was alive then, but before we could get him anywhere, he had passed on….I would interview people who claimed they had seen something, and try to convince them they hadn’t, or that they were hallucinating. If that didn’t work, another team would give all the threats – threaten them and their family. They would be in charge of discrediting them, making them look foolish. Now, if that didn’t work, there was another team that put an end to that problem, one way or another….UFOs are both extraterrestrial and manmade….Even back in Tesla’s time, we had free energy. It’s not that our government doesn’t want us to know that there are other people on other planets. What they don’t want us to know is that this free energy is available to everybody. That’s the greatest secret. So secrecy about the UFOs is because of the energy issue….Some would like for us to believe that the aliens are our enemy now. There’s no proof that I have ever read in any official document where – unless they were attacked – they ever shot. We don’t have a threat from Russia anymore, but if we keep shooting at those aliens, we might have a threat from them. We should quit that. We should demand that our government stop trying to shoot down those aliens.  pp.  358 - 366.

It's from the ten page UFO summary under: Cover-up: Advanced Technologies from UFO's.  Pretty convincing testimony.  But I have to agree with Chris and Kevin about taking it easy, observe and understand but don't get sucked into it too much.  I truly believe it's a 100th monkey scenario and once enough people awaken to the truth dramatic change will ensue. 

Namaste

Oh, guys, I love were this is going!  Don't stop now!!!! Wheeee! I think that we have opened a wormhole!

Don't be afraid of reaching beyond you current belief memes.  It is the pathway to the higher knowledge.

Brian, I think that you are about to get to that point where you will release the doubt that keeps you anchored to 3D.

I stumbled upon this series by a math teacher that is astonishingly illuminating concerning simple steady growth of anything.  He is also very refreshing because he exhibits that good old fashioned common sense that seems to be a lost art these days...  Here is the first 4 of 8 parts

YouTube - The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See (part 1 of 8)

YouTube - The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See (part 2 of 8)

YouTube - The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See (part 3 of 8)

YouTube - The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See (part 4 of 8)

and this mind-blowing piece on the near future according to current figures

YouTube - MIND - OPENING NUMBERS VIDEO ABOUT HUMANITY AND TECHNOLOGY !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlP7P9NVSEY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWp_56AbFPg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujLBM2sbHqA&feature=related

and Bob Lazar's testimony about his experiences at the S4 facility at Groom Lake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv0-vSK4bmg&feature=related

and Tom Valone's Integrity Research Institute

http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org

I watched all those videos (my eyes are red) and I spent time today looking over 9/11 evidence sites.

About 9/11-I am convinced it was a false flag and that is HUGE. But I see the evidence, like for free energy and UFO confiscation and still, I can't get off the fence!

 I try to be skeptical constantly of ALL evidence because sometimes people do or say things for money or to sell books or because it's exciting for them. Take Dr. Steven Greer. When people ask him about how many houses he has or other money matters, he gets really angry. I believe he's doing very well. His now thousand dollar field trips to contact ET' craft are quite easy to criticize (and I almost went on one). I have spoken to someone who did and it sounded like a washout... Strangely enough, I have believed strongly in Greer's wild stories and adventures. I can't resolve this or understand how to handle the conflicting stuff and so it sows doubt for me. That in turn makes me wonder about the credibility of the witnesses at the press conference(I know... I'm an idiot).

 I really like Tom Valone. He seems so sincere and knowledgeable but I think he is living off his speaking proceeds. So couldn't he be exaggerating things? And the list goes on and on. Speakers at UFO conferences are expected to blow minds. People have films or books to promote-I NEVER feel like the evidence is totally free from the compensation issue.
UGGGGHHHH I just can't get beyond this issue. This conflict is intertwined with everything else-like my openness to all these exotic subjects including spiritual subjects. I'm split right down the middle! To believe or not to believe! That-is the question! (I have a headache).

Hey Brian, while it is wise to consider the compansation issue as motivation to embelish information, consider another angle. Some people must be sincere in their efforts and only seek compensation as a means to finance their endeavors. Everyone has to seek compensation for whatever their efforts may be in this life just to put food on the table and a roof over their head. One can view compensation as an exchange of energy and cash need not be the only form of energy that can be exchanged for service. I think the big issue is to try to take only what you need and not try to get rich from service to others so there must be a balance to achieve along the way and that would be different for each of us.

do want as has been spent discussing conspiracy theory, i believe we'd be making leaps and bounds toward ascension of the race. no doubt there are ptb's that have attempted throughout history to enslave us-can anyone enslave your mind, heart and soul if you choose otherwise?

give your attention to that which uplifts and promotes love not fear.                                               what we give this much thought to, we give this much energy to.                                                   why this message is short. Namaste.          kristyne

What I really appreciated about Tom Valone (even though I understood so little of it) is he reveals very convincingly how many people are doing serious work in the field of overunity R&D.  This gives me hope that breakthroughs are imminent.  I still highly suspect that functioning types of over unity devices have already been created, but are kept secret until such a time deemed appropriate for unveiling and distribution.

The interview also got me interested in looking into Hal Puthoff's work on the subject since Valone mentioned him several times.  As for Greer, he remains on the fringes of the subject when compared to someone like Valone or Paul La Violette.  It is exciting to see the issue of over unity and the breaking down or revision of the first and second laws of thermodynamics being of such serious consideration and research in the mainstream physics community now.  As for Valone's compensation, I highly doubt he is getting rich from those modest speaking engagements.  He sure seems like the essence of sincerity, modesty and forthrightness or up front-ness.

We are living at a time that has happened many times in history, the reluctant surrendering of an old belief system giving way to undeniable evidence for the new.  It is still being denied by some "laws of energy conservation" die hards, but that is to be expected.

So Brian, I would not worry too much about what to believe.  Either this discovery of over unity is really happening or it is not, and time will tell.  I also have a feeling that much of your reluctance exhibited in many of your posts of late has more to do with something you said early on.  Something about some very amazing experiences you had earlier in life, and then the feeling that you lost them, or the ability to recreate them, and you are somewhat disappointed and disillusioned about that.

I would be too.  In fact, I can relate in a minor way.  I lived in our finished basement as a kid, and when the sun came through the window well I would have at times these overwhelming feelings of well being that were so obviously more than just sunshine shining through a window.  It was like a religious experience of connection to the Divine.  As I grew older those experiences faded until they became a distant memory, and I yearned for their return, but to no avail.

I think it is all in there, but gets shrouded in all the left brain noise that this 3rd density experience is comprised of.  Maybe try this - have faith in not having to believe one damn thing, for all that is true and real is already real.  To simply seek for the serenity that is in some form of simple logic like that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO-1l0lXR_U&feature=related

 It is amazing how smart and varied all your individual responses are.

I feel so profoundly not useful to the world that I feel I must decide my whole remaining life's worth of actions right away. (I do this all or nothing thing all the time! Some kind of guilt thing I guess-raised Catholic)   but...

If we are on the edge of ecological collapse-what should I be doing? (Recycling plastic water bottles isn't enough)

Should I be fighting against oil companies because they are killing us w/greed? (seems foolish)

Should I be trying to help free energy researchers because they are our only hope?

Should I be trying to help get free energy devices and patents released from the government because THAT'S our only hope?

Should I be fighting for expansion of solar and wind in the US because that is....

Should I be 'pursuing my spiritual yearnings' because they are more important than anything??

I want to know what is meaningful so I don't waste time (my fav pastime)pursuing wrong stuff.

I wonder if getting 'straightened out' spiritually, creating a spirit and meditation-based mind state wouldn't help best. When I'm at peace I make decent decisions and I'm less afraid to act. I stop catastrophizing the world and my own thoughts too. I also love to further my understanding and use of intentional power-sometimes it seems it's the ONLY thing that matters. Chris, you should right a book! I also have memories of a 'window well' nature. Beautiful experiences.Thank you.

I am so thankful for all the feedback and writing this out is a big help. I love u all- wish me luck

For voicing your questions and concerns so candidly.  I think this is one of the best uses for this forum - airing out our dirty laundry and asking for help when things get tough.  And things do get tough.  This #@*! can drive us nuts if we dwell on it too much.  I would say that the outside world is only a mirror for what is taking place within so go with your hunch about pursuing a spirit and meditation-based state.  Search within and be careful of too much thinking with the mind, our thoughts tend to runaway from us and send us into panic.  A lot of these thoughts and fears can stem from past hurts, both in this lifetime and others, that have not healed and are continually brought forth again by similar circumstances.  "When I'm at peace I make decent decisions and I'm less afraid to act."  That sounds like the best place to begin.  Easier said than done, I know, but I salute you in your brutally honest quest for the truth and for peace of mind.  Become still, find peace of mind, listen to your heart, and then do all those things that you brought up.  But I'm starting to think fighting against anything is the wrong approach, that we would do better by coming together and supporting those things that will make a positive change.  Only love can defeat a force that appears so grave.  

Back to Free Energy.  In case anyone missed it I wanted to include this link: 

http://pesn.com/2010/07/14/9501672_Terawatt_Research_LLC_defies_free_ene...  

Check out the guys running this crew.  Do we have to stay that fiercely secretive about free energy in order to bring it about without the PTB first destroying it?  Is this why we're still not seeing any public results yet?  But they are getting results.  This is encouraging.  And I also love the second half of Free Energy: The Race to Zero Point found here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7365305906535911834#. 

It shows some brilliant minds producing real results with many different types of free energy.  It's real and it's coming and it's time for us to support such efforts in whatever way we can. 

To a future where all endeavors come from a place of love!

Francsi

I'm worn out trying to discern. There are far too many weird "facts" and conspiracies and horrifying whatevers being thrown around here to help me make sense of the world.
Lately, the more I read of coverups and wacked theories of history, there more doubt I have in them. It seems more likely it's a just psycho-drama.

I have a relative who is working directly with many members of congress and they are plainly normal people-not a huge conspiracy of "one party". There is too much sincerity and realism in these people to be the monsters people are painting them to be. I have to say that I'm starting to think we are NOT victims of a matrix-like environment of total control with pure evil working the levers. It doesn't ring true and I know we can fool ourselves into believing almost anything if we want to...I'm not saying there aren't big conspiracies and coverups-Fred has convinced me of that, it's just that I can't handle a megalithic murderous maelstrom of death and enslavement.....I can't go there! If it's true I'll be killed by it anyway so I might as well try to enjoy life while I can. Someone else will have to lift the world and put it on their shoulders-I'm not strong enough to do it.

Peace and good luck-Brian