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Hi Berry

Thanks for sharing, you have my love and support. 

I also have a similar situation at home, in so much that my husband is not at all open to all the information or ready to hear about what is really going on.  He has only just agreed to read about 9/11 so I am only able to talk to a couple of people about all that I am learning.  That's why I find the community here so refreshing and supportive.

I know I have not written much - yet - but I do check in at least once a day to see what's new.  It is so good to know that there are people out there who share my views and are passionate about making this world a better place.

I have decided to slowly drip feed the information to my husband and others and hope that it triggers some interest.  We had a heated discussion  on Sunday about Free Energy; he's an electrition and finds it hard to beleive that we wouldn't know about this if it were true.  I experienced first hand just how angry people are going to be when they start to see through all the lies that we have been fed. 

I am lucky that he is at least willing to start looking at the information and I can feel your pain when you talk about your partner and his reluctance to look past the negativity and see that actually you are not being negative, just aware. 

We are all much stronger and more able to cope with all the changes if we are aware and open to change.  Don't give up Berry he could still be open to change, it just takes some people longer than others to allow these changing times to filter past their defenses.  He may be too scared to allow himself to beleive all this stuff.  It is hard to sit by and watch someone who refuses to raise their consciousness but it is his path and you are on yours.

I am sending you loads of hugs and healing thoughts.  You're not alone and you have his love, if not his total acceptance of your reality, and that is a wonderful thing and the rest will come, or not, but it's all good.

EWOP everything is working out perfectly, all is in divine and perfect order

with love valx

Dear Berry, Love not fear will win the day. Many at the point of the shift will experience a state of satori, (a flash of sudden awareness) What Dear Ray sees and loves within you he also carries in his own heart, it is simply covered by the pain he has experienced at this point of his journey. For many who have experienced such pain there is a natural protective shield from that which may destabalize the spiritual being and send it into dispair, (Not a good thing at this time)  At the right time the density that has held many within third density experience will be burned of in the  moment of transition. Please forgive me for offering unasked for advice, but if you can see the Love that he is, and not the fear that he carries. This will be enough.

Peace, Peace Peace

Hello Berry,

Please know that my prayers are given, for you and Ray, with compassion for your situation.   That is definitely a difficult one.   And as much as we try…. It is impossible to force another’s eyes open.  

A couple things I would like to share with you tonight ~

I do believe that the shift is not something that is “going to happen.”  I think that we are in the process of it and have been for a few years, with the pivotal center point getting closer each day.  Although I have read and researched as much as I can about what to expect…I think we are just going to go through it one day at a time.  I have tried to “hurry myself’ along and have worked diligently on trying to expand my consciousness, or become enlightened,  but I think there is no hurrying Life, or it’s processes.

The past year or so I started noticing something very interesting in a co-worker.  He was a “gloom and doom” kind of guy who was always complaining about everything.  I would cringe when he came around, not wanting to hear what he was certain to complain about yet again.   I would try to be positive, but that only seemed to give him more fuel, with him explaining how any attempt to make things better would just fail.    The only thing I found I could do to stand being around him was to work on myself.  I practiced just being aware and present…. Just listening with awareness and letting go of my need to try and help him “fix” his depressive state.    

As I practiced being aware… I noticed something changing within him.  His life situation began to change.  He started talking about how he wanted better things in his life.  His dysfunctional love relationship dissolved… and another more functional relationship appeared.  He came in to work smiling and “Happy”.   Over the course of about six months I watched this “non-awakened” gloom and doom individual start calling himself, “Happy”.  I would still say that he is “non-awakened” or unaware, but is still evolving right along with the awakened ones.

The message that has come through to me in this, is that perhaps we don’t have to know everything…or have all this knowledge, to be able to go through the shift successfully.    

I have seen other’s behaviors changing… for the positive, all around me lately.  In a managers meeting one week I saw my boss start the meeting in a very foul mood.  When he starts in this way, the meetings are usually very short and unproductive because it shuts down all communication.  In the middle of this meeting, he did an about face, and turned positive and animated.   I confronted him later to tell him how impressed I was with his ability to make that shift within the meeting.  He wasn’t even aware of it.  After I relayed to him how the meeting started – and how it ended - He could see what he did.  But it was almost as surprising to him as it was to me.   When I commented to co-workers about this incident, they seemed not to have noticed it… until I brought it up.  Then they said, “Yeah… that was kind of different behavior for him.”

 I hope you can see the connection I am trying to make here.  Perhaps Ray doesn’t need to know all the stuff you do to make it through the shift by your side.   Maybe life is actually being kind to some people and they won’t have to carry the heaviness of all this knowledge... because we are.    I am sure that when his eyes are opened…. You will be there to make the landing softer for him – standing ready with your compassion and understanding.

Thanks for hearing my thoughts.

With much love,

  Mary

I'm sending you and Ray lots of love and support for what's best in this, Berry. Thanks so much for reaching out. I can only imagine how frustrating it is at times to not be able to talk about all of this with the person you are closest to. You take care and know that my and our love and support are with you.

With sacred love and warm hugs,
Fred

Dear Berry,

I could have written that message. My wife, and most of our friends, just doesn't care, or want to know about all of the information that I glean from TT and my many other related sources. And yes, I'm accused of being very negative and unpatriotic etc. etc. This is a very intelligent, well educated, well traveled and well read woman who gets that" he's being weird again" look on her face so I just don't share this information with her anymore. I know exactly how you feel. Just give them time, there are many other things to share that keep the love and light glowing between you. I must agree with you in that this rejection,or lack of interest  in what we find so important  makes our communication with the people on this website so wonderful. It's like finding an oasis  in the desert. 

Much love,

Jim

Hi Berry.  What I sense more than anything is your impatience with what you perceive as his stubborness to open up to all there is to see these days.  Your excitement for all that is happening falling on deaf ears, especially when it is someone as close as Ray is to you, is difficult.

But Ray is not late, nor is he being left behind somehow.  His experience is valid, unique, and right on time, because there really is no wrong way to go about free will and law of confusion.  As I see it, which is so true for all of us at times, is that the ball is not in Ray's court, but your/my own.  It is you who must accept Ray just as he is, and maybe even spare him your views for a while, long enough for him to see that you are truly accepting him just as he is and giving him, a sovereign divine integral, his valid space.

thinking Ray is somehow going to be "left behind" is somewhat of a "distorted" (to borrow from RA) perception, and very likely has little to do with Ray at all, and more to do with your chosen view.  Fluid intelligence practice would most likely free you up a bit, and relieve you of undue concerns about Ray....  I fought this thing too at first, right up to the moment I dove straight in head first and never looked back.  In any case, we are all sovereign, and are all right on time in the Now that we awaken, for there is only one Now, and only One.

The Ray you see is your creation...  Makes one wonder if there is more there to see when one gets past one's own perception???  There sure is more to see when one uses LSD or DMT or mushrooms, LOL, not that I am alluding to your own experimentation, but boy is that ever true!!!!  Lots more to see when we get past some of our own self inflicted trappings....

I would say let Ray be Ray and know that's so very okay....  LLP, Chris

It seems we all share the same issues of our spouses not sharng our views. This has gone on for aeons at least. But seriously, I share your pain Berry and I know that what worked for me was this (similar to what Mary said):

Drop bits and pieces, and see if they are picked up. If he is really not into the conspiracy side of things, see if you can't get some interest on the more positive side. Lately I've been talking to my wife about how conspiracies are not all doom and gloom, and really trying to push the idea that things get worse before they get better. I also try and throw things her way when I think she may be ready for them, for example today she was feeling pretty down, and I think I really came through: I basically walked her through one of my own mediations, told her to ignore all thoughts and focus on each breath, full of love from me and her other family members entering her body, the oxygen filtering into her lungs and blood, and the heart pumping it through the body, deivering the energy to each cell, and on the return trip, back out through the lungs and breathing out the negative emotions (more words than that and over a long time but you get the idea).

She got a bit frustrated after a few minutes, which I still do from time to time when I really try and focus (which I sadly admit is less frequent lately), but the point is I shared part of my experience with this 'weird stuff' in a meaningful way.

She is totally against the doom and gloom. She got mad when I bought a bunch of canned food 'just in case.' But you've got to have conviction when you speak about these alternative news stories, discuss it like it were any other MSM lame story, and try not to personalize it too much. Share the info, and if he listens and is interested, so be it. If not, you've done what you can.

I understand fully the passion which is involved in learning about all of this crazy stuff, but it scares people off. I've got a group of friends who were really into this stuff (or passingly at least) in University, and I'm trying to keep the fires stoked by sending along the odd article here and there. Even with these guys, who are far more awaked than the average guy on the street (in my opinion) its hard to keep that fire burning. Try focusing on the positive is what I"m trying to say, and see if you make any headway like that, then bring in the negative angle as a part of the positive. I think Fred did a great job of just this in the course.

Cheers Berry and all

Berry, I wonder if you could ask Ray to watch Out of the Blue, or the Disclosure Project's National Press Club thing or some of the videos from the Course with you and open the conversation up?

Hi All-

My husband was the one who woke me up. After 9/11 happened we argued every morning (and some evenings) until the summer of 2002 when he linked me up to www.cooperativeresearch.org. (Paul Thomspson's 9/11 truth timeline). I was unwilling to look at any internet information - I saw this as unreliable but the 9/11 truth timeline had links to mainstream sources. The only reason I did this was to end the bitter arguments and create some peace so I set out to prove my husband wrong! Of course I only proved myself wrong but the arguments finally ended.

Now, I totally understand where many of you are as I've tried to wake up my brother, his family and some good friends to no avail. I agree that it helps to start small. As a peace activist, I already knew about the nefarious actions of the CIA in overthrowing the governments of other countries. Without this background information and my husbands patience (or perhaps stubborness?) I never would have accepted what I read at cooperative research or perhaps even found it interesting enough to thoroughly read. Fortunately we now have better resources - the most compelling information from Paul Thompson's timeline is now condensed at www.wanttoknow.info.

Wendy

Hi, Berry, and all.

I don't have a partner, per se, but do have friends and family that roll their eyes or laugh when I even try to engage in dialog about what I think might be going on in the world.  I have friends who call me a "conspiracy theorist" in a derogatory way, and are clear about not wanting to hear anything that goes against main stream thought.  

In the same way, only one or two of my friends will allow me to perform Reiki on them - not even a little.  I try to continue to offer when appropriate.  The ones that know how important it is to me will be respectful, but generally don't embrace it.

I kind of look at it in the same way Jesus did.  He also had issues in "his own town".  He could not preach or do healing there.  I really can't recall the actual verse, but he basically says in the Bible... "don't plan on being able to do great things in the place you grew up".  That helps me accept that my friends and family see me in a different way than a stranger might.  I can lay my hands on a stranger and facilitate healing.  I hope that perhaps my friends and family will hear some of these things from someone else, and recognize the truth in what I've been suggesting all along.  

There are times when I DO engage friends, I do it by asking questions.  "Hey, have you ever seen how fast the Twin Towers fell?  How could that have happened?  Why do you think there are 1000 architects protesting the findings of the 911 commission?"  Or, "Have you ever noticed how every time a terrible disaster happens in the world, the world moves in to help, then all of a sudden there are big corporations making tons of money in that particular part of the world - to rebuild, or building hotels on land that used to be owned by poor neighborhoods, etc...?  Isn't that fishy to you?"  I let them figure out that something seems strange, then we talk about it.  I know that when I first embarked on the journey into this information via the coursework here, I had a good 2 or 3 weeks where I was a real mess - scared, sad, depressed... but I trudged on - perhaps in the same way a person cannot look away from a train wreck. : )  Some people just don't want to know.  They are afraid.  They don't want to wake up to realize that everything they thought they knew was wrong.  They don't want to know that they cannot trust the institutions and people they always thought they could trust.  They don't want to know that the (insert political party here) are evil and the cause of all the problems.  It's easier to be asleep.  Though I prefer to be awake, I know that there are times when I think - Damn, I wish I didn't know....

Continue to adore your partner for the dear man that he is.  Be compassionate to him as you recognize that he is afraid, or for some other reason unable to open to your truth.  Don't ever assume that even what you know as the truth, is the bottom line Truth.  There are many layers.  Perhaps Ray's resistance to learning from you is teaching you something that once you learn it, he will open to what you have to share.

Love and hugs to you.  Thank you for bringing to light an issue that clearly all of us share.

Kathy