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Thank You Berry for posting it

First off, thank you for the post Berry.  It was very heartfelt and, what felt to me at least, honest.  I say that because I have recently watched another video and it has turned Drunvalo's work on it's head.  Let me start by saying that I loved Drunvalo's Flower of Life books, and was fascinated by his contact with Thoth and the adventures and discoveries they made together.  It was a lot of math and sacred geometry but I loved all of it nonetheless.  The entire time I felt that I had finally discovered some ancient truths that were going to help me in my search to remember the truth.  I guess what I'm trying to say is I like Drunvalo's work and appreciate very much where he is coming from, he seems honest and sincere.  So it peeves me to no end when I run across someone else's work who completely contradicts and, even worse, calls it a pack of lies to trick us. 

Now I am writing in a simple request for help, not for the purpose of contradicting Drunvalo's work.
I don't know how many of you have watched the new video on Project Camelot where Kerry Cassidy interviews Ashayana Deane, but she flat out says Thoth is out to trick us and his fibonacci golden mean ratio merkaba is a Metatronic Death Star merkaba which is a slight variation of the true Kryst merkaba that will take us through the ascension process and that this Death Star merkaba will take us the other way!  Now her work is very detailed and mathematical and she seems to be very nice and sincere as well.  I know we're supposed to be selective in what we choose to accept but the two completely opposing beliefs is frustrating to no end.  I would love to hear anyone else's opinions on this subject?  I don't mean to draw anyone's attention to negative issues, and I apologize in advance if this turns out to be the case, but it brings up a good question about discernment and discrimination.  What do we really know about any of these beings or so called contacts that these people are communicating with and just how far do we go to test the authenticity of the message?

Would love any help you could give concerning Ashayana Deane and the subject matter she presents.  It seems to contradict a lot of what we've been led to believe.

Much love and discernment to you all!

Francis

Please note before reading - this post is meant to educate - no judgement against anyone here:

I'm personally of the opinion that nothing Asyana Deane is mentally unstable, I've basically abandonned Project Camelot for Avalon - I find the interviews a lot more down to earth and practical - most of Kerry's interviewee's seem to border on crazy these days, and I'm sick of wasting my time and energy on people who want to tell me all about ridiculous theories of the world exploding due to some bizarre fantasy for which they can provide no reason or proof other than supposed ET contact or the like. How do they know that the 'entities' they are talking to (if any) aren't negatively oriented creatures that are just messing with their heads? I think this is the more likely scenario as many of them come of as having a brain made of scrambled eggs. Such material amounts to nothing more than fear porn which will distract and detract anyone who is trying to do honest work to learn the truth and make the world a better place.

I haven't watched the video in Berry's post yet - in fact I haven't followed anything by this Drunvalo character. Just needed to get this rant out, and warn people against going down such paths. I've often done it myself, but I honestly believe that Bill's presentations on Avalon, although still often containing a healthy dose of the bad stuff (because it does exist - the world obviously is pretty Eff'd right now) never spirals into insane conjecture about lakes of fire and death stars - because this stuff is ridiculous.

We need to focus on the real issues. Financial reform (real kind), energy issues (getting off oil, I personally believe the gov't knows about free energy and is holding it back as they are controlled), health problems (gulf-spill chemicals on beaches where kids are playing and no gov't warnings to stay off, genetically modified foods), loss of freedoms (G-20 insanity, microchipping of our credit cards/ID's - this is one step removed from implants people) and other such things. Not crazy doom and gloom, it will do nothing except give you that 'fear' rush, which only feeds more negativity and will leave you feeling down after the initial rush. I urge anyone reading this to break the fear habit, and if you start reading something that sounds absolutely insane, it probably is.

I watched that interview too Francis & Josh and found Deane to be overly complicated and had that vague sense of wackness while listening to her chatter.  And then it began to get a little interesting, some things making me go hmmmm, but she came down pretty hard on James at Wingmakers and Drunvalo M., and that made my defense mechanism go back up, but that is pretty subjective stuff when it comes to going with whatever resonates strongly with your own unique sense of Being and understanding as per one's own personal journey and moments of illuminating synchronicity.

I tend to trust Drunvalo because he has been in such intimate contact with so many of this planet's indigenous, and I truly believe they are a big part of Gaia's/Humanity's storehouse of true knowledge, while modern man has lost there way in linear rationalization left brain land.  I was very inspired by that latest by Drunvalo, especially the part about his trip to Moorea.  Drunvalo is also the founder of Spirit of Ma'at which has always had great stuff.

Ashayana Deane is far too exhaustingly complicated, and as she says, she never knows what she is going to say until she is actually on stage at the next event, and it will be all new information from her source, a continuation of all that complicated information.  How would one go about intuitively assimilating and integrating that perpetually forming mathematical formula for ascension?  Are just the most left brain intelligent among mankind to be the only fortunate ones to figure out the math and ascend?  I just have this feeling that Deane is primarily doing what she does to amuse herself, where Drunvalo is truly and humbly seeking for guidance for whatever will heal the rift humanity finds itself in at present.

I'm not necessarily saying that's a bad or wrong thing, but the overly complicated data just doesn't seem or feel right to me when it comes to communicating vital information to millions, even billions of awakening souls.  What we can know for sure is all of this gets into some very personal subjective intuitive unique journeys of and methods for discovery by a myriad of sovereign integral fractal aspects of the One, so trying to form a winning argument for one source or another is all but futile in my opinion, and most likely a total waste of personal time.

It would seem we are left with being touched by what touches us and kindly and graciously leaving the rest behind...

...find all of the myriad sources out there a bit confusing at times. SO many differing messages! I feel that the good ones out there all seem to have the same common theme, and that is that it's all really up to us. We can expect some help but only if we ask for it. I like the Wing Makers material because it clearly states that it is mythology with some truth sprinkled around in there. It also promotes sovereignty which, in my mind, is vital. I have no desire to become part of a hive like the Borg or something. One thing I will say. If we don't see open contact with ETs in the next three years, then all of it is B.S. and we will have been had by the NWO. All will be revealed one way or the other very soon so there is no reason to buy into fear. We wake up each day and carry on and that is enough for me to be grateful.

Peace, Love and Joy

Kevin

Francis, thank you for asking the question.  I haven't seen the Project Camelot video, I have tried to watch it a few times but just couldn't gel with it or her - I can't understand/hear her properly either maybe it's because I'm English - so I gave up especially as it was so darn complicated.  I thought life was meant to be simple!

I agree with Josh, Avalon is so much more grounded and even their stuff is starting to grate.  Fear Porn, I am soooooo sick of it!

Dunvalo's video, for me, was like another piece of a very big jig-saw; I thoroughly enjoyed it.  I feel that the link to reality is there, he makes more sense to me.  It fits with my shamanic beliefs and I am happier leaning towards his outlook on life than on the Ashayana Deane stuff.  It made more sense and reasonated more with me.  I did get a tad irritated when he hints that he is one of the chosen few, I always find that puts me off but hey someone has to get the message out and it could well be him. 

I like what he had to say and liked his last video too, I have only just - this past week, seen his stuff for the first time, so I am coming from a place of instant gut feelings here and he gets my vote.......for now.

FFG I agree, following your own path is important now and just appreciating nature in all it's beauty where ever I am.  I am starting to follow my own guidance more and more and am trusting my own instincts, they cant be any more wrong than anyone elses, can they?  or can they?  ekkkkkkkkkkkkkk I guess I will just keep reading, learning, diserning and trying to enjoy my life amidst all this doom and gloom. 

I am very happy to belong to such a diserning and heart centred community. 

love to you all xx

for all your great feedback!  I was really feeling frustrated with shuffling the contrasting views.  And yet I almost didn't want to post my question because I thought it might throw others into confusion as well.  None of us needs anymore confusion these days.  I guess the whole thing really centered around Thoth and the question of Ascended Masters.  I find Thoth (Hermes) a very interesting character with a rich and varied history (mythology?) and when I discovered Drunvalo's Flower of Life books I was elated to discover that Thoth was his supposed contact.  And then Deane . . . anyway, I don't want to dwell on it or rehash the whole thing but thank you all for your insightful and very helpful feedback.  Honestly, if I didn't have this wonderful group to ask such questions and concerns I don't know where or who I could've asked.  Funny, it's like the 2012 sign that Berry posted, it's hard to find another soul interested in such subjects.  So thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

Josh, I agree with your assessment that it often seems like nothing but a distraction to keep good people from doing honest work to learn the truth and make the world a better place.  FFG, I feel that your channels are right when they say it's time for us to rely on our own Impressions, Intuition & Connection to the Divine.  And it's too true, the Drama is tittilating.  Just look at all the "reality" shows these days, people feeding off the negativity and loving it.  Sometimes the public interest seems like mob mentality, feeding off of and then back into each others' inharmonious feelings - anger, fear, distrust, lust, and the like - no more fear porn! 

So thanks again, and Chris I too thought that trip to Moorea was a moving experience as well.  Something about his connections with the natives and surrounding environment seems to speak a sort of truth in itself. And thank you Val & Kevin for your encouraging words as well.

Love and gratitude to you all!

Francis

 This thread reminds me of that Dr. Seuss book " Oh The Places You'll Go" his last book...an exerpt:

When you’re alone, there’s a very good chance
you’ll meet things that scare you right out of your pants.
There are some, down the road between hither and yon,
that can scare you so much you won’t want to go on.
But on you will go
though the weather be foul
On you will go
though your enemies prowl
On you will go
though the Hakken-Kraks howl
Onward up many
a frightening creek,
though your arms may get sore
and your sneakers may leak.
On and on you will hike
and I know you’ll hike far
and face up to your problems
whatever they are.
You’ll get mixed up, of course,
as you already know.
You’ll get mixed up
with many strange birds as you go.
So be sure when you step.
Step with care and great tact
and remember that Life’s
a Great Balancing Act.

Love and peace to you-Brian

Berry,

Fantastic, thank you so very much for posting this. I was very moved by his message.

Jim